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===Tidying up===
===Tidying up===
Whichever of these various options you take, moving pages will create [[Wikipedia:double redirect|double redirects]] in any redirects that pointed to the original page location. These must be fixed; click on the "What links here" button of the new page location to check for them. It is the responsibility of the admin doing the move to fix these, though periodically a bot will fix any you miss.
Whichever of these various options you take, moving pages will change any [[WP:REDIRECT|redirects]] that pointed to the original page location, into [[Wikipedia:double redirect|double redirects]]. It is the responsibility of the admin doing the move to fix these, though periodically a bot will attempt to fix any you missed.


The "move succeeded" summary page that that you are taken to directly upon a move provides a boldfaced "check" button specifically geared to listing the offending double redirects created. However, some talk pages, archive pages and subpages that you may have also moved, may also have had redirects that have become double redirects. For such associated pages, go to the prior page names (which should now be thmselves all at redirects) and click on "What links here" in the toolbox on the left hand side of the page, then click on "Hide links." This is the manual procedure to take you to what the "Check" button noted above takes you to automatically. Fix any double redirects shown on the resulting page.
When you complete an entry on this page (whether the move was accepted or rejected), ''don't forget to remove the'' <nowiki>{{move}}</nowiki> ''tag from the talk page'' and if a discussion on the move exists on the talk page please add and sign a comment to indicate whether the move was accepted or rejected. Also, '''remove the entry''' from this page (do not simply strike it through).


You should also check wheher there are any images on the moved page with [[Wikipedia:Non-free use rationale guideline|fair use rationales]] (any Commons images can be immediately excluded). If you find such images present, change all mentions of the prior article name, to the retitled name, so that the image is not [[WP:CSD#I5|marked for deletion as orphaned]].
You should probably leave a message on the talk page too. There are a few options for this. One is to use the templates {{tl|Polltop}} and {{tl|Pollbottom}} (although some editors prefer {{tl|discussion top}} and {{tl|discussion bottom}}), much like the [[WP:AfD]] debate closing templates {{tl|at}} and {{tl|ab}}. The other is just to leave a statement much like the templates {{tl|moved}} and {{tl|notmoved}}. For requests that for some reason didn't apply the {{tl|move}} template to the talk page of the article, you can inform the user and/or article with a statement similar to the statement the {{tl|notmovedmalformed}} template leaves.

When you complete an entry on this page (whether the move was accepted or rejected), ''don't forget to remove the'' {{tl|move}} ''tag from the talk page'' and {{tl|multimove}} from the talk pages of any bundled pages. You should also add and sign a comment to indicate whether the move was accepted or rejected in the discussion area for the requested move survey on the article's talk page. This can takr the form of an informal note or a more formal close (see below). Also, '''remove the entry''' from the requested move project page as well as any comments attached to it (do not simply strike it through).

There are a few options for closing the move request survey on the affected article's talk page. One is to use the templates {{tl|polltop}} and {{tl|pollbottom}} (although some editors prefer {{tl|discussion top}} and {{tl|discussion bottom}}), much like the [[WP:AfD]] debate closing templates {{tl|at}} and {{tl|ab}}. The other is just to leave a statement much like the templates {{tl|moved}} and {{tl|notmoved}}. For requests that for some reason did not apply, you can use {{tl|notmovedmalformed}} or a similar statement based on the circumstances.


It's worth periodically checking either [[:Category:Requested moves]] or [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Special:Whatlinkshere&target=Template:Move here] to see if any pages missed this step. Checking either of these regularly has the side-benefit of finding pages where people added the <nowiki>{{Move}}</nowiki> tag to the page, but didn't realize they needed to edit WP:RM as well.
It's worth periodically checking either [[:Category:Requested moves]] or [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Special:Whatlinkshere&target=Template:Move here] to see if any pages missed this step. Checking either of these regularly has the side-benefit of finding pages where people added the <nowiki>{{Move}}</nowiki> tag to the page, but didn't realize they needed to edit WP:RM as well.


Admins volunteering to do tidying tasks should [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requested_moves&action=watch watch the requested moves] page for new notices.
Admins volunteering to do tidying tasks should [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requested_moves&action=watch watch the requested moves] page for new notices.


===History merges===
===History merges===

Revision as of 01:39, 31 December 2008

The following are guidelines for administrators on Wikipedia:Requested moves.

Determining consensus

Determining consensus on requested moves is somewhat of a contentious area. In general, there is a consensus that there is no minimum participation required. This isn't like articles for deletion, where lack of participation requires relisting. For most moves, there is no need to make a request at all, and the need for requestinf the move arises only because of a technical limitation resulting from the target article name existing is a redirect with more than one edit.

Thus, if no one has objected, go ahead and perform the move as requested unless it is patently out of keeping with naming conventions or otherwise is in clear conflict with policy. If objections have been raised, then the discussion should be evaluated just like any other discussion on Wikipedia: lack of consensus normally means that no change happens. However, sometimes a requested move results from opposition to a recent bold move from a long existing name that cannot be undone. Where there is no consensus on these types of moves, discretionarily the article should be moved back to the prior default name where it had been for a long time to set the playing field back to even. If a discussion is ongoing or has not reached a reasonable conclusion, relist it.

Reversal of irreversible page moves

See: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/AndriyK#Reversal of irreversible page moves (Passed 7-0, 04:19, 27 January 2006)

If a page move is blocked for an ordinary editor due to a minor edit history on the target page, consider deleting the page and restoring only the redirect, then any editor can move the page without any additional help from an administrator.

Moving procedure for admins

Since any page move listed at WP:RM or WP:SPLICE will have a redirect at the desired location, you must investigate that redirect. It is important to check to see if the redirect has major history; major history contains information about the addition of current text. (This is sometimes caused by the accidental creation of a duplicate article, or someone doing a cut-and-paste "move", instead of using the "Move this page" button.) Never simply delete such redirect pages, (which we need to keep for copyright reasons).

Major history

There are three ways to deal with a page move with a major history:

  1. The "right" way is to merge the histories, using the procedure outlined at Wikipedia:How to fix cut and paste moves. On rare occasions, this procedure will not work correctly. There are also circumstances (for example duplicate pages) where it's not the correct choice anyway. Once done, it cannot easily be undone, so don't pick this option unless it's definitely the right one. You can request history merges at Wikipedia:Cut and paste move repair holding pen.
  2. Alternatively, the article and the redirect can be swapped. This leaves the bifurcated history, but has less chance of causing problems. Simply move one of the pair to a temporary name, and then delete the new redirect which that move will leave behind at the original location; next, move the other page of the pair across to the first one's old location, and delete that left-over new redirect; finally, move the first one from its temporary location to its new name. You will then need to delete the new redirect at the temporary location, and finally fix the old redirect to point at the article again (at this point, it will be pointing to itself).
  3. Another option is for redirect pages with major history to be archived into a talk namespace, and a link to them put into the article's talk page. (An example of such a page is at Talk:Network SouthEast, which was originally created as a duplicate article at Network SouthEast and later archived, when the original article was moved from Network South East.)

Minor history

A minor history on the other hand contains no information, for example the redirect page Eric Tracy has a minor history but Eric Treacy (which incidentally is the correct spelling) could not be moved there because of a spelling mistake in the original page. Redirect pages with minor histories can simply be deleted.

Tidying up

Whichever of these various options you take, moving pages will change any redirects that pointed to the original page location, into double redirects. It is the responsibility of the admin doing the move to fix these, though periodically a bot will attempt to fix any you missed.

The "move succeeded" summary page that that you are taken to directly upon a move provides a boldfaced "check" button specifically geared to listing the offending double redirects created. However, some talk pages, archive pages and subpages that you may have also moved, may also have had redirects that have become double redirects. For such associated pages, go to the prior page names (which should now be thmselves all at redirects) and click on "What links here" in the toolbox on the left hand side of the page, then click on "Hide links." This is the manual procedure to take you to what the "Check" button noted above takes you to automatically. Fix any double redirects shown on the resulting page.

You should also check wheher there are any images on the moved page with fair use rationales (any Commons images can be immediately excluded). If you find such images present, change all mentions of the prior article name, to the retitled name, so that the image is not marked for deletion as orphaned.

When you complete an entry on this page (whether the move was accepted or rejected), don't forget to remove the {{move}} tag from the talk page and {{multimove}} from the talk pages of any bundled pages. You should also add and sign a comment to indicate whether the move was accepted or rejected in the discussion area for the requested move survey on the article's talk page. This can takr the form of an informal note or a more formal close (see below). Also, remove the entry from the requested move project page as well as any comments attached to it (do not simply strike it through).

There are a few options for closing the move request survey on the affected article's talk page. One is to use the templates {{polltop}} and {{pollbottom}} (although some editors prefer {{discussion top}} and {{discussion bottom}}), much like the WP:AfD debate closing templates {{at}} and {{ab}}. The other is just to leave a statement much like the templates {{moved}} and {{notmoved}}. For requests that for some reason did not apply, you can use {{notmovedmalformed}} or a similar statement based on the circumstances.

It's worth periodically checking either Category:Requested moves or here to see if any pages missed this step. Checking either of these regularly has the side-benefit of finding pages where people added the {{Move}} tag to the page, but didn't realize they needed to edit WP:RM as well.

Admins volunteering to do tidying tasks should watch the requested moves page for new notices.

History merges

In order to deal with required merges of a copy/paste move which cannot be done right away, list the pages involved at Wikipedia:Cut and paste move repair holding pen.