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::::::::In simple terms, you cannot use a copyrighted image (as you did there) unless you add a detailed fair-use rationale for that specific use. Failure to do so means you are violating our policy on fair-use and if you are not using a fair-use exemption, you are therefore violating copyright. In general, copyrighted images may not be used solely for illustration, either, only for critical commentary. It is indeed a tricky area of our policy and I mean no offense by declining your unblock request. Instead, I declined because it's clear you don't yet understand the policies and guidelines in this tricky area. I expect once you've thoroughly familiarised yourself with them, another admin will be happy to unblock you! --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] ([[User talk:Yamla|talk]]) 14:49, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
::::::::In simple terms, you cannot use a copyrighted image (as you did there) unless you add a detailed fair-use rationale for that specific use. Failure to do so means you are violating our policy on fair-use and if you are not using a fair-use exemption, you are therefore violating copyright. In general, copyrighted images may not be used solely for illustration, either, only for critical commentary. It is indeed a tricky area of our policy and I mean no offense by declining your unblock request. Instead, I declined because it's clear you don't yet understand the policies and guidelines in this tricky area. I expect once you've thoroughly familiarised yourself with them, another admin will be happy to unblock you! --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] ([[User talk:Yamla|talk]]) 14:49, 12 December 2020 (UTC)


{{unblock| I added a picture already included on Wikipedia of the [[Ol Dirty Bastard]] on to the [[Wu-Tang Clan]] page. He is a founding member. I added pictures of the other eight members as well using the same rationale. Only his image was removed by a bot. Because it was only his image and by a bot I thought it was a glitch. I have seen bot glitches before on Wikipedia. So I re added it three times over two and a half weeks as I thought it was a glitch at the time and was under the impression I was helping the page. This is my first block for this and through the conversation on here I now understand it was not a glitch. I was wrong to revert the bot and I will not do so again. I will never add that image to any page again. Nor will I add any images to the Wu-Tang Clan page again. I will never re add any deleted images. And if deemed necessary by the reviewer of this request I will no longer add any images to Wikipedia. I take this block seriously and am sorry if I have appeared not to. It is my intention to constructively add to pages. I have no intention of violating any policy and I wish to understand this policy better. Thank you and I am sorry for the disruption and for compromising Wikipedia. There is clearly still a lot I have to learn. I have now read through and familiarized myself with the Wikipedia policies concerning this issue again and am confident I fully understand them. I will not make this mistake again.}} [[User:Samurai Kung fu Cowboy|Samurai Kung fu Cowboy]] ([[User talk:Samurai Kung fu Cowboy#top|talk]]) 14:55, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
{{unblock reviewed|accept=Accepting request with conditional ban on adding images to articles, as discussed below. <sub>signed, </sub>[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] <sup>[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]</sup> 19:32, 23 December 2020 (UTC)|1=I added a picture already included on Wikipedia of the [[Ol Dirty Bastard]] on to the [[Wu-Tang Clan]] page. He is a founding member. I added pictures of the other eight members as well using the same rationale. Only his image was removed by a bot. Because it was only his image and by a bot I thought it was a glitch. I have seen bot glitches before on Wikipedia. So I re added it three times over two and a half weeks as I thought it was a glitch at the time and was under the impression I was helping the page. This is my first block for this and through the conversation on here I now understand it was not a glitch. I was wrong to revert the bot and I will not do so again. I will never add that image to any page again. Nor will I add any images to the Wu-Tang Clan page again. I will never re add any deleted images. And if deemed necessary by the reviewer of this request I will no longer add any images to Wikipedia. I take this block seriously and am sorry if I have appeared not to. It is my intention to constructively add to pages. I have no intention of violating any policy and I wish to understand this policy better. Thank you and I am sorry for the disruption and for compromising Wikipedia. There is clearly still a lot I have to learn. I have now read through and familiarized myself with the Wikipedia policies concerning this issue again and am confident I fully understand them. I will not make this mistake again.}} [[User:Samurai Kung fu Cowboy|Samurai Kung fu Cowboy]] ([[User talk:Samurai Kung fu Cowboy#top|talk]]) 14:55, 12 December 2020 (UTC)


{{Ping|Yamla}} Thank you for the clarification. That gives me further insight and better understanding. I still do not think I will add any more images. [[User:Samurai Kung fu Cowboy|Samurai Kung fu Cowboy]] ([[User talk:Samurai Kung fu Cowboy#top|talk]]) 15:00, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
{{Ping|Yamla}} Thank you for the clarification. That gives me further insight and better understanding. I still do not think I will add any more images. [[User:Samurai Kung fu Cowboy|Samurai Kung fu Cowboy]] ([[User talk:Samurai Kung fu Cowboy#top|talk]]) 15:00, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

Revision as of 19:32, 23 December 2020

Mr. Tarantino?

Mr.Tarantino. I can help you with the page, if you are indeed the real Tarantino. Um, one easy way to verify: Owen Gleiberman. You a fan?I can tell if you are real based upon the response, etc.73.95.137.99 (talk) 22:35, 14 July 2019 (UTC) You got the wrong guy. However, I know for a fact that some of the information is incorrect.[reply]

So, this is not the real Tarantino?2601:282:8300:B761:4C33:CD3B:5F23:D47A (talk) 01:10, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Quentin. Relax, just anonymously email me at (redacted) Can fix the article. Cheers 2601:282:8300:B761:4C33:CD3B:5F23:D47A (talk) 01:13, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'm adding one more comment on here for full clarity. I am in no way associated with Tarantino. I'm just leaving this here because I find it amusing. Samurai Kung fu Cowboy (talk) 00:47, 15 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A cheeseburger for you!

and a Coke! Baby Driver 1980 (talk) 22:06, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A bowl of strawberries for you!

More about Mank

See my talk page User_talk:Zeamays Samurai, please be courteous, and don't assume ill will and combativeness on the part of other editors. Also please don't be so defensive. Editing is normal. That also is Wikipedia policy. --Zeamays (talk) 19:39, 12 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Everything's clear now. Only thing is, you check next time and see if i'm correct, because I've seen Once Upon a Time in Hollywood three times now, and there is a little girl dressed as Trudi's. That occurs after Rick Dalton throws away Marybella on the floor and she responds to him like there's no problem. Then the other little girl is in front of Trudi, I mean Marybella, and we look her on the side not from, but clearly is not Trudi, is her double. Baby Driver 1980 (talk) 23:50, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A beer for you!

Hello Mr Samurai, Here's some proof that Director Quentin Tarantino is the actual voice in the Bounty Law TV show. It's a video from YouTube, minute 16:14, when he's asked about if he has a role in Once.... Mr Tarantino mentions that he's doing the voice in Bounty Law and he reproduces that voice live: Bounty Law. starring Rick Dalton. Please, take it in some consideration, Mr Samurai. Here's the link, minute 16:14....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ec5em1mqJtQ Baby Driver 1980 (talk) 17:41, 21 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

He's not the voice in the film. Famous voice actor Corey Burton is. He's credited as such and listed on IMDB. Samurai Kung fu Cowboy (talk) 20:37, 21 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I understand your confusion now. Perhaps we can find a reference that talks about how Burton replaced Tarantino and add a sentence about it. This is why proper references and research are valuable. This still doesn't explain the multiple fake post credit scenes you added to the plot. Samurai Kung fu Cowboy (talk) 21:12, 21 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Barnstar of Diligence
I like putting fake information when a movie that I love is playing in theaters.

You're doing a good job...

Wiki Law.

Starring Samurai Kung Fu Cowboy.

Baby Driver 1980 (talk) 23:08, 21 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Reply

This bot is very helpful. Just submit the article name, hit the box to archive all non dead sources and it does the rest. Rusted AutoParts 21:44, 9 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Congrats dude! The article you were working on, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, has passed the Good Article criteria, becoming a good article on November 11, 2020. Great job on the improvements! For you're hard work, I award you this image of a cute cat. Enjoy!
Horacio Vara (talk) 12:59, 11 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Barnstar of Diligence
and thank you for the encouragement! Beccaynr (talk) 07:01, 4 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

December 2020

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You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for violating the non-free content policy, as you did at Wu-Tang Clan.
If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  — JJMC89(T·C) 16:54, 11 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Samurai Kung fu Cowboy (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Request reason:

I added a picture of the Ol Dirty Bastard to the Wu-Tang Clan page. He is an original member and the image already exists on Wikipedia. I added it next to his description as a member of the group as I did with all other members. However, his image kept being deleted by a bot, because of what I believe was an unforeseen glitch. So I re added it three times over two and a half weeks. I won't add it again if I was wrong in doing this. However, it does appear to be a glitch. Thank you.

Decline reason:

The bot was correct, you were violating WP:NFCC. I don't see the specific non-free use rationale for the use of that image, so it looks like the bot was correctly removing it until you provided a justification for that use. Yamla (talk) 18:24, 11 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]


If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Samurai Kung fu Cowboy (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Request reason:

I see I was wrong now. However I hope it is clear why I was confused. All other images of original members were not being removed other than the one of Ol Dirty Bastard. This is why I thought it was a glitch because it was being done by a bot as I have seen bot glitches before. I now understand that I was wrong. I hope you can see my intention was not to violate policy and a clear, logical reason for my confusion. I had read through this specific policy and I didn't understand it was my mistake. I now do. Prior to this block no other editor had told me why this image could not be included or warned me against using it and this is the first block I have received over it. I will not add any more images to the Wu Tang Clan page. I will never add the image of Ol Dirty Bastard to any other pages. I will never re add an image removed again. I fully understand what happened now. As this is the first conversation I have had about this and now I understand the confusion I ask I be able to edit again. Thank you.

Decline reason:

You clearly have no idea how serious it is to violate our fair-use policies. Yamla (talk) 14:25, 12 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]


If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

@JJMC89: I'm inclined to unblock, given the above. What are your thoughts? --Yamla (talk) 19:22, 11 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Yamla: Based on your inclination and that @JJMC89: has yet to respond, I ask if the block can be lifted if I agree not to add or remove any images until that editor responds? Samurai Kung fu Cowboy (talk) 00:53, 12 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
No. Please give the blocking admin a while to respond. --Yamla (talk) 10:44, 12 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Yamla: How long? This is keeping me from adding constructive edits. I used the same rationale for the picture that got deleted as I did for the eight members who didn't get deleted. There are nine members. This is why I thought it was a glitch. I now know it was not a glitch but something else and my mistake and I will not do it again. Samurai Kung fu Cowboy (talk) 12:45, 12 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
You were placing the entire project in jeopardy by violating copyright. I'm sorry, but it's quite reasonable for you to wait a few days here. --Yamla (talk) 12:46, 12 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Yamla: The image already exists on Wikipedia and he is one of the founding members of the group whose page it was. Images of them together with him included already exist on the page. How does that image violate copyright? And also I have agreed not to add any more images to the page. Not to add that image anywhere. Although I should point out it is the main image included on his Wikipedia page for quite some time. Years in fact. And I have also agreed not to ever re add another image. As someone who works in the legal field, I can assure you that image on that page violated no copyright laws. Samurai Kung fu Cowboy (talk) 13:35, 12 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I have declined your unblock request. You are free to make a new request which will be reviewed by another administrator, but unfortunately it is now clear to me that you do not understand the seriousness of your actions. --Yamla (talk) 14:25, 12 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Yamla: Please respond to this. I do understand that my edits violated policy as I have stated. I believe it is clear why I was confused. I have agreed not to add the image again or add images to the page or re add any deleted image. I do not yet fully understand the Wikipedia policy. I have read it but it is unclear to me. I am happy for you to explain it to me. Please do in fact, as I wish to understand it better. Please reconsider and even if you decide to uphold the block please further explain the policy to me. I would appreciate if you could spell it out because I do feel like I am in the dark. Thank you. Samurai Kung fu Cowboy (talk) 14:42, 12 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
In simple terms, you cannot use a copyrighted image (as you did there) unless you add a detailed fair-use rationale for that specific use. Failure to do so means you are violating our policy on fair-use and if you are not using a fair-use exemption, you are therefore violating copyright. In general, copyrighted images may not be used solely for illustration, either, only for critical commentary. It is indeed a tricky area of our policy and I mean no offense by declining your unblock request. Instead, I declined because it's clear you don't yet understand the policies and guidelines in this tricky area. I expect once you've thoroughly familiarised yourself with them, another admin will be happy to unblock you! --Yamla (talk) 14:49, 12 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who accepted the request.

Samurai Kung fu Cowboy (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Request reason:

I added a picture already included on Wikipedia of the Ol Dirty Bastard on to the Wu-Tang Clan page. He is a founding member. I added pictures of the other eight members as well using the same rationale. Only his image was removed by a bot. Because it was only his image and by a bot I thought it was a glitch. I have seen bot glitches before on Wikipedia. So I re added it three times over two and a half weeks as I thought it was a glitch at the time and was under the impression I was helping the page. This is my first block for this and through the conversation on here I now understand it was not a glitch. I was wrong to revert the bot and I will not do so again. I will never add that image to any page again. Nor will I add any images to the Wu-Tang Clan page again. I will never re add any deleted images. And if deemed necessary by the reviewer of this request I will no longer add any images to Wikipedia. I take this block seriously and am sorry if I have appeared not to. It is my intention to constructively add to pages. I have no intention of violating any policy and I wish to understand this policy better. Thank you and I am sorry for the disruption and for compromising Wikipedia. There is clearly still a lot I have to learn. I have now read through and familiarized myself with the Wikipedia policies concerning this issue again and am confident I fully understand them. I will not make this mistake again.

Accept reason:

Accepting request with conditional ban on adding images to articles, as discussed below. signed, Rosguill talk 19:32, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Samurai Kung fu Cowboy (talk) 14:55, 12 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Yamla: Thank you for the clarification. That gives me further insight and better understanding. I still do not think I will add any more images. Samurai Kung fu Cowboy (talk) 15:00, 12 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Yamla: Being that I used the same rationale for the other images on that page, are they too violating policy? If not, why? Also, if they are, why did the bot only remove the one? I hope you understand why I am searching for clarification about the specifics here. I wish to fully understand how these images were allowed when the other was not. I already do understand why the Ol Dirty Bastard image was removed. What I don't fully understand is what set it apart from the images of the other members. I feel if I understand that, I will fully understand the policy. I hope that makes sense. Thank you. Samurai Kung fu Cowboy (talk) 15:34, 12 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Yamla: I now feel I fully understand this after reviewing the policy again. Thank you for your time. Samurai Kung fu Cowboy (talk) 21:24, 12 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Yamla: By any chance do you know when my request will be reviewed? Are other admins aware that you are no longer reviewing it? Samurai Kung fu Cowboy (talk) 15:07, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Yamla: Please respond as this is my only way of having any idea of what is going on. It appears you are the only admin reviewing these unless I am mistaken. I believe if you're not, other admins are not aware you are no longer reviewing mine. Please reconsider my appeal and whatever process you deem necessary I will completely agree to and not butt in. If this is not possible can you please tell me what the time limit will be? If it has no time limit and will be infinite can you please delete this account? I'd really appreciate something. Thank you. This is really bothering me not knowing how long this block is supposed to be or if it's supposed to be forever at this point. I hope you understand that I am pinging you because I am unable to use any other means. Samurai Kung fu Cowboy (talk) 19:47, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have already reviewed a prior unblock request, so am not permitted to review your current request. If you like, I can ping JJMC89 directly on their talk page to see if they'd consider lifting their block on you. --Yamla (talk) 18:49, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Yamla: Yes. I would appreciate that. Thank you. I'm also going to respond to this other admins question. Samurai Kung fu Cowboy (talk) 05:30, 18 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Acroterion: Hello. I'm sorry to bother you but I noticed that you're an admin who has been active recently. I am trying to figure out why my recent request for unblocking is not being reviewed. Any insight would be much appreciated. Thank you. Samurai Kung fu Cowboy (talk) 19:23, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Samurai Kung fu Cowboy, since you've reviewed our copyright policies, could you state in your own words what sorts of images you are allowed to upload to Wikipedia? signed, Rosguill talk 23:13, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Rosguill: Essentially my understanding is that even if an image is already on Wikipedia, it can only be uploaded on to another page with a very specific and detailed reason as to how it enhances the page and improves it. How the visual is not merely a compliment to the text but is being used in a way that gives explanation to the text, that can't simply be conveyed through words. So to use this situation as an example, even though the image I used already existed on another Wikipedia page, and the subject was talked about specifically in the section I added to, it was not needed to further illustrate the text and even if it may have been, I failed to provide a detailed explanation as to why. As far as uploading an image that isn't on Wikipedia, one would have to own it or have documented permission from the owner. However, I personally don't have the technical know how as how to do that and have no personal interest in doing so. I hope this answers your question. Thank you for following up with me. Samurai Kung fu Cowboy (talk) 05:45, 18 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
This isn't quite correct, but you're on the right track. For one thing, you haven't made a distinction between freely licensed or public domain images and non-free content. Please read through WP:IUPC and WP:NFCC and try again. Your answer should identify the distinction between these categories of images, and list the prerequisites for the use of non-free images. signed, Rosguill talk 16:48, 18 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Rosguill: Public domain images are essentially public property while non-free content is not. Some images are the editors own work. They own it and created it and own the copyright. Freely licensed is work the owner has released for public use with a caveat. It needs verifiable, legitimate proof. Some of these images are only released specifically for educational purposes and sometimes specifically for Wikipedia. Public domain are images that aren't copyrighted at all. If someone downloads one of these images they still need proof of this. Fair use/non-free needs to meet certain requirements. It needs to be legal under the federal copyright laws under this heading. It further describes the text in a way that cannot be fully understood through text. It needs a rationale describing how it fits this criteria. In very brief terms, fair use allows for copyrighted material to be used without legal permission if it is determined to be of public interest. Non-free rationale is used for non-free material in public media when no free or created material exists or can exist that would serve the purpose of the non-free. This limits legal federal issues. Samurai Kung fu Cowboy (talk) 22:40, 18 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Rosguill: I updated my latest answer a little bit. It wasn't clear what I was saying previously to anyone other than me I think. I hope it's clearer now. Thank you. Samurai Kung fu Cowboy (talk) 18:31, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The above isn't a flawless description, but I think you're fairly close to the level of understanding needed to be able to edit safely. Could you give a concrete example of a situation where you can use a non-free image in an article? signed, Rosguill talk 20:14, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Rosguill: Yes. On a page for a monument or structure. Let's say the Empire State Building. No matter how much text was provided, one could logically argue or state that text can never fully illustrate what it is. So an image would greatly improve the page, making for a better encyclopedia, and giving the reader a visual education. If only non-free images exist of the building, one could rationally be used based on my reasoning. But of course it would mean that one would have to give this rationale and not be able to use any free images. Samurai Kung fu Cowboy (talk) 22:37, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
That is unfortunately incorrect, as the Empire State Building is a building for which free use images are available, and if they weren't it would be rather feasible to take a new one. Thus, it fails criterion #1 at WP:NFCC.
As it stands, I'm concerned that you still don't quite understand how image copyright works on Wikipedia. That having been said, I don't want to hold up your ability to make positive contributions unrelated to images over this. Thus, I'm wondering if you would consider accepting a conditional unblock, where you would remain banned from adding images to articles but would otherwise be free to edit. Would that be acceptable? Pinging blocking admin JJMC89 for his input as well. signed, Rosguill talk 22:48, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Rosguill: Ok. Sounds good to me. Samurai Kung fu Cowboy (talk) 00:13, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Rosguill: I just wanted to check on the status you offered. Are you just waiting for @JJMC89:? I believe @Yamla: messaged him a few days ago about this. I can be corrected if I'm wrong. Will I still be unblocked if he doesn't respond? Thank you. Samurai Kung fu Cowboy (talk) 02:03, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
If he doesn't respond in a few days I'll implement the conditional unblock. signed, Rosguill talk 06:03, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Rosguill: Can I be unblocked now under the conditions we agreed to? Samurai Kung fu Cowboy (talk) 19:28, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]