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It's unsourced since 2013. No difference from kofta to require a separate article other than its association with a certain town Spudlace (talk) 04:59, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support Nom makes sense. Geoff | Who, me? 17:34, 23 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support This is just a trivial variant. --Macrakis (talk) 18:32, 23 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support Unsourced English stub does not go into distinguishing characteristics. The Turkish wikipedia article is padded with puffery about the quality of the beef used, and mentions some usual accompaniments, such as ayran being a favored beverage. Just plain Bill (talk) 21:21, 30 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sure the region is justly proud of their specialty dish and the quality of the veal may be notable, since it is freshly slaughtered (according to TasteAtlas) I don't think it's mere puffery. We do give regional variations with established notability their own articles. Maybe more sources will become available in the future, but, this one line article has been without any sources since 2013. Spudlace (talk) 22:29, 30 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough. The question of whether some of that content can be incorporated in the English WP is adjacent but separate from whether it should stand on its own as a stubby article, or merged into this one. I still favor merging, leaving open the possibility of it eventually becoming fleshed out enough to stand on its own. Just plain Bill (talk) 22:46, 30 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Idell: This[1] was your very own POV. Your source[2] says it's From Urdu and Persian koftah ‘pounded meat’. Plus it's not a WP:RS for etymology stuff. The other one[3] is just a link to the main page of a personal website; non-WP:RS again. The word is a Persian loanword[4] (see Descendants) in Urdu. How did you reach that conclusion "It also comes from Classical Persian..."?! WP is not a dictionary. What "kofta" means in Urdu belongs to its own section: Kofta#Pakistan --Wario-Man (talk) 20:55, 30 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Wow... I just found you disrupted Wiktionary entries and inserted your POV there too.[5][6] Reliable sources?! Really?! --Wario-Man (talk) 03:32, 1 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
And this is what cited source (Alan S. Kaye, "Persian loanwords in English", English Today) says: "kofta (‘a meat or fish rissole, popular in theEast’) < Hindi and Urdu kufta (‘a poundedmeat’) < Persian kufta (‘rissole’)" I edited the etymology per source. --Wario-Man (talk) 04:27, 1 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Two "Levantine cuisine" sections in external links?
Hello everyone,
There seems to be two "Levantine cuisine" sections in the external links. They don't contain exactly the same content, although very similar. Are they the same thing?
Hey, @Materialscentist, @Largoplazo, @Anaxial, I can't follow what's happening -- is this POV-pushing (replacing Greek/Cypriot info with Turkish etc.), or is it just someone wrongheadedly trying to get the Turkish dish into the lead, etc.? (I did see that final edit summary, but it still might just be interpreted as wrongheaded and now super frustrated.) —valereee (talk) 15:15, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
POV-pushing and appears to be the latest sockpuppet of Shingling334. The "Block Aviation" edit summary appears to be mockery of the WP:BLOCKEVASION mentions in some of the edits in these and other articles that have reverted changes by previous incarnations. Largoplazo (talk) 19:41, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, @Largoplazo. Variations sections in food articles do tend to attract POV-pushing; editors come in and see their own local variant isn't mentioned (or isn't mentioned in the lead) and think they have to add it. This subject may actually be large enough to spin off some articles. Probably the only variation that needs to be mentioned in the lead is the historically first, if that's something we can know. I'll do a little research. —valereee (talk) 10:30, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Variations section > list
In most cases I wouldn't want to turn prose into a list, but in a food article variations section it can actually be extremely helpful in reducing the addition of a ton of unsourced assertions because we can limit the list to variations that have an article or that are plausible redlinks (that is, we can require a redlink include several links to sources). —valereee (talk) 11:18, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I've reorganized, have ordered some research materials and will circle back to expand. —valereee (talk) 13:17, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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