MediaWiki talk:Titleblacklist

The following instructions were copied from mw:Extension:Title Blacklist.

The title blacklist is maintained as a system message MediaWiki:Titleblacklist.

This page consists of regular expressions, each on a separate line. For example:

Foo <autoconfirmed|noedit|errmsg=blacklisted-testpage> 
Bar #No one should create article about it

There is no need to use "^" at the beginning and "$" at the end; these are added automatically.

Each entry may also contain optional attributes, enclosed in <> and divided by |

• autoconfirmed — only non-autoconfirmed users are unable to create/upload/move such pages
• noedit — users are also unable to edit this article
• casesensitive — don't ignore case when checking title for being blacklisted
• errmsg — the name of the message that should be displayed instead of standard

When the action is blocked, one of the following messages is displayed together with the filter row (as $1): titleblacklist-forbidden-edit, titleblacklist-forbidden-move, titleblacklist-forbidden-new-account or titleblacklist-forbidden-upload. Generic filenames have their own custom error message, MediaWiki:Titleblacklist-custom-imagename.

There is also MediaWiki:Titlewhitelist and a global title blacklist.

Only administrators, page movers and template editors can override this list on all actions. Account creators can override this list on account creations only.

Protected edit request on 28 June 2018

Add mentions of "Danny Lorraine" and star sizes to the list. Those are targeted by this vandal; also see Sockpuppet investigations. 203.173.245.76 (talk) 06:25, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

 Not done yet. Please provide diffs showing why those two strings should be added, I couldn't find any in the contributions of that person's socks, but I didn't go through every contribution. Fish+Karate 11:27, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

IP talk pages blocked from moves

See thread at WP:VPT#IP talk page blacklisted?. An IP created their talk page at an incorrect location, so I attempted to move it to the correct location (User talk:2600:1002:B00A:E4EB:F021:E054:2B2F:4C37). A rule preventing more than nine consecutive capital letters prevented this move. I suggest an exception for this rule when it comes to user/user talk pages. Home Lander (talk) 02:10, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

 Not done @Home Lander: you are referring to this right? That should have just been speedy deleted. As for your edit request, I assume you are referring to .*\p{Lu}(\P{L}*\p{Lu}){9}.* <casesensitive | moveonly> # Disallows moves with more than nine consecutive capital letters; however you did not provide a specific edit change that you would make so that this could be completed. This section can certainly be used to discuss this rule in general though. — xaosflux ^Talk 02:55, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

@Xaosflux: When I first came upon the page, I overlooked the extra stuff at the end of the title, so thinking I was just at the user's talk page already, I overwrote the content with a warning about it. It was after that I noticed that the title was incorrect, so I tried to move it. Yes, that is the line that I'm told prevented the page move. This line is potentially problematic, as shown here, because it prevents page moves to user talks of IP addresses that meet this rule. Home Lander (talk) 03:02, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

This issue can be fixed by adding User( talk)?:.*\p{Lu}(\P{L}*\p{Lu}){9}.* <casesensitive | moveonly> to MediaWiki:Titlewhitelist. SD0001 (talk) 14:51, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Exception for Bayer designations

Bayer designations for stars in the constellation Boötes take the form of a Greek letter followed by the genitive form of the constellation name which is Boötis. Article titles consisting of a Greek letter in combination with non-latin characters are currently blacklisted. The star articles themselves are conventionally titled using the spelled-out form of the Green letter (eg. lambda for λ, lambda Boötis) but it is standard practice to provide a redirect from the name containing the Greek letter (eg. λ Boötis, especially useful for stars with proper names (eg. Arcturus). An exception would be helpful to allow this. If this could be general enough to allow derivations, for example λ Boötis star as a redirect to lambda Boötis star, that would be even better. Lithopsian —Preceding undated comment added 10:13, 24 August 2018

• I'm guessing you hit the same blacklist entry I did - Latin + non-Latin. As a workaround, I believe admins can override the blacklist. Hairy Dude (talk) 02:17, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

  There are potentially a whole bunch of redirects required, so it might be a bit much to ask of the admins. See Template:Stars of Boötes for a list of Bayer stars in that constellation (25 of them?), plus a handful of related classes. Lithopsian (talk) 13:18, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

  If you provide a list of the 25 redirects (with targets) that you would like created, I will do it. — JJMC89 (T·C) 02:58, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

  Good news, several of them already exist. They're lower-case Greek letters, for what that's worth on a redirect. Lithopsian (talk) 14:23, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

1. α Boötis => Arcturus
2. β Boötis => beta Boötis
3. γ Boötis => gamma Boötis
4. δ Boötis => delta Boötis
5. ε Boötis => epsilon Boötis
6. ζ Boötis => zeta Boötis
7. η Boötis => eta Boötis
8. θ Boötis => theta Boötis
9. ι Boötis => iota Boötis
10. κ Boötis => kappa Boötis
11. κ1 Boötis => kappa Boötis
12. κ2 Boötis => kappa Boötis
13. λ Boötis => lambda Boötis
14. μ Boötis => mu Boötis
15. μ1 Boötis => mu Boötis
16. μ2 Boötis => mu Boötis
17. ν Boötis => nu Boötis
18. ν1 Boötis => nu1 Boötis
19. ν2 Boötis => nu2 Boötis
20. ξ Boötis => xi Boötis
21. ο Boötis => omicron Boötis
22. π Boötis => pi Boötis
23. π1 Boötis => pi Boötis
24. π2 Boötis => pi Boötis
25. ρ Boötis => rho Boötis
26. σ Boötis => sigma Boötis
27. τ Boötis => tau Boötis
28. υ Boötis => upsilon Boötis
29. φ Boötis => phi Boötis
30. χ Boötis => chi Boötis
31. ψ Boötis => psi Boötis
32. ω Boötis => omega Boötis
33. λ Boötis star => lambda Boötis star
34. τ Boötis b => Tau Boötis b

 Redirects created​ — JJMC89 (T·C) 02:40, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for that. Looks good. Lithopsian (talk) 10:22, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

ʻOkina again

I just tried to move Punalu'u Beach to Punaluʻu Beach, but I hit the following filter:

• (?!(User|Wikipedia)( talk)?:|Talk:)\P{L}*\p{Latin}.*[^\p{Latin}\P{L}].* <moveonly> # Latin + non-Latin

If I'm reading this right, this bans titles that combine Latin and non-Latin script, but only when moving. This is bizarre - ʻokina is definitely part of the Latin script for Hawaiian. I note that this subject was brought up here previously (2012) but nothing was done. Hairy Dude (talk) 02:10, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

There's also a request at WP:RM/TR to move Keaweʻopala to Keaweʻōpala over a redirect, but I can't move it because it says the redirect is on the title blacklist. Station1 (talk) 19:29, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

done; template editors and admins can do it. I suppose it might be possible to add okina to the latin characters in that regex or add it to the Mediawiki:Titlewhitelist, at-least if this comes up often enough. Galobtter (pingó mió) 19:44, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

I encountered several okina moves last month. This is a problem because it required marking for administrator attention, but the moves were eventually completed. — Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 22:14, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Remove the ʻOkina symbol from the pagemove prevention filter rule discussed above. — Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 18:17, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

[V]arious apostrophe(-like) variants (’ʻ ʾ ʿ ᾿ ῾ ‘ ’ c), should generally not be used in page titles. That includes the ʻokina. — JJMC89 (T·C) 20:57, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

I suggest you start a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Article titles. If there is consensus that 'okina is acceptable for article titles, then we can get the rule removed here. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:43, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

The okina is widely used in article titles and there have been multiple technical requests to put the okina into titles, these were completed. Special:Permalink/855300030 is one such request. The okina is widely used in titles such as Oʻzbekiston Jumhuriyati, Oʻahu nukupuʻu, Oʻahu ʻōʻō, and others. — Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 14:50, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

I've reactivated this request. The text quoted by JJMC89 is not definitive enough ("generally") to justify an entry in the Titleblacklist. The Titleblacklist is a "never" list, not a "discourage" list. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 10:15, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

@Jo-Jo Eumerus: please specific the exact change to be made, with line numbers if possible — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:52, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Seems like we want to add ʻ to MediaWiki:Titlewhitelist to make this work. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 17:18, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

User pages

Foreign language user pages need to be blacklisted. For example, Luigi Catalani (talk · contribs) seems to be tring to create user pages for his students but is creating them in the Utente: namespace (which isn't a namespace on enwiki) so they end up as unwanted articles with silly names. The following prefixes (out of many, I haven't figured out how to quickly create a complete list) ought to be blocked from creation:

Användare:
Benutzer:
Bruker:
Gebruiker:
Pengguna:
sadasya:
Usuario:
Usuário(a):
Utente:
Utilisateur:
Utilizator:
प्रयोगकर्ता:
Χρήστης:
સભ્ય:
सदस्य:
प्रयोगकर्ता:
प्रयोगकर्ता:
सदस्यः:
ಸದಸ್ಯ:
ഉപയോക്താവ്:
பயனர்:
వాడుకరి:
Участник:

16 & 17 look the same to me, but they came from different wikis. -- Cabayi (talk) 16:48, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

If I copy #17 and paste it into Ctrl+F, I find that it's identical to #16 and also to #12. Nyttend (talk) 01:42, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

 Not done in addition to above, this is also not ready to add as if you could add it yourself. Of course this can still be discussed here, and when it is ready you can reactivate the request tag above. — xaosflux ^Talk 03:59, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

• @Cabayi and Nyttend: In sanskrit, hindi, and Marathi (among few other languages) सदस्य of #15, and 18 means member, and प्रयोगकर्ता of #12, 16, an 17 means operator. —usernamekiran(talk) 22:57, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

1. Användare:
2. Benutzer:
3. Bruker:
4. Gebruiker:
5. Pengguna:
6. sadasya:
7. Usuario:
8. Usuário(a):
9. Utente:
10. Utilisateur:
11. Utilizator:
12. प्रयोगकर्ता:
13. Χρήστης:
14. સભ્ય:
15. सदस्य:
16. ಸದಸ್ಯ:
17. ഉപയോക്താവ്:
18. பயனர்:
19. వాడుకరి:
20. Участник:

So here's our list. Assuming it's not hard to do the regex, is there any reason not to add them? I can't say there will never be a situation, but I can't currently imagine a situation in which we'd want to have an article begin with any of these phrases, and if there is such a situation, an ordinary "override the blacklist" request at WP:AN should work. Nyttend (talk) 23:04, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

Regexed list in syntaxhighlight block below (blank line ahead of section, leading space on each line, trailing wildcard .*). Explanatory comment added. Duplicates removed. Request reactivated.

syntaxhighlight is suppressing display of the leading blank line.

 # Prevent creation of articles beginning with foreign language equivalents of 
 # User: as they aren't recognised on enwiki. (User: works on every wiki)
 Användare:.*
 Benutzer:.*
 Bruker:.*
 Gebruiker:.*
 Pengguna:.*
 sadasya:.*
 Usuario:.*
 Usuário(a):.*
 Utente:.*
 Utilisateur:.*
 Utilizator:.*
 प्रयोगकर्ता:.*
 Χρήστης:.*
 સભ્ય:.*
 सदस्य:.*
 ಸದಸ್ಯ:.*
 ഉപയോക്താവ്:.*
 பயனர்:.*
 వాడుకరి:.*
 Участник:.*

-- Cabayi (talk) 09:41, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

Deactivating - I've figured out how to get the complete list, starting from a list of wikis and the fact that they all recognise User:. This may take a while. Cabayi (talk) 10:23, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

Reactivating - here's the full list, deduped

 # Prevent creation of articles beginning with foreign language equivalents of 
 # User: as they aren't recognised on enwiki. (User: works on every wiki)
 Agar aramat:.*
 Amseqdac:.*
 Användare:.*
 Atuisoq:.*
 Aжыглакчы:.*
 Ben(o|u)t(s|z)er:.*
 Bikarhêner:.*
 Bru(ge|ka|ke)er:.*
 Brëkòwnik:.*
 Brúkari:.*
 Brūcend:.*
 Choyoołʼįįhí:.*
 Cleachdaiche:.*
 Dalībnieks:.*
 Defnyddiwr:.*
 Devnydhyer:.*
 Druvadur:.*
 Dulooi:.*
 Foydalanuvchi:.*
 Geavaheaddji:.*
 Geban:.*
 Gebr(oe|u|ui)ker:.*
 Gumagamit:.*
 Gumaramit:.*
 Implijer:.*
 Itilizatè:.*
 Iōng chiá:.*
 Jeno:.*
 Jëfandikukat:.*
 Ka notcitatc:.*
 Karber:.*
 Kasutaja:.*
 Kisadi:.*
 Korisnik:.*
 Kullanıcı:.*
 Kävutai:.*
 Käyttäi:.*
 Käyttäjä:.*
 Lankide:.*
 Lītuotuojs:.*
 Masyin:.*
 Mea hoʻohana:.*
 Meidogger:.*
 Metmaacher:.*
 Middawaida:.*
 Mošomi:.*
 Mpikambana:.*
 Mtumiaji:.*
 Muna'sesetbi:.*
 Naudotojas:.*
 Nauduotuos:.*
 Notandi:.*
 Nutza:.*
 Odwumanyɛni:.*
 Oníṣe:.*
 Outelizador\(a\):.*
 Pamakai:.*
 Pamaké:.*
 Panganggo:.*
 Pangguno:.*
 Paragamit:.*
 Paydalanıwshı:.*
 Pengguna:.*
 Pruukja:.*
 Puruhára:.*
 Përdoruesi:.*
 Qullanıcı:.*
 Redaktor:.*
 Ruraq:.*
 Suradnik:.*
 Szerkesztő:.*
 Ta ohu'uwo:.*
 Tagagamit:.*
 Thành viên:.*
 Tlatequitiltilīlli:.*
 Uiser:.*
 Ulanyjy:.*
 Uporabnik:.*
 Ureuëng Ngui:.*
 Usa(d|t)or:.*
 Usor:.*
 Usuari(|o|u):.*
 Usuàriu:.*
 Usuário\(a\):.*
 Utent(|e|i):.*
 Utilisa(de|teu|to)r:.*
 Utilizaire:.*
 Utilizator:.*
 Uza na'in:.*
 Uzanto:.*
 Uzeu:.*
 Używacz:.*
 Wikiped(i|y)sta:.*
 Wužiwar:.*
 Wužywaŕ:.*
 Ymmydeyr:.*
 Yusa:.*
 Yuuser:.*
 pilno:.*
 sadasya:.*
 Úsáideoir:.*
 İstifadəçi:.*
 Χρήστες:.*
 Алахәыла:.*
 Архайæг:.*
 Викиавтор:.*
 Гьуртту хьума:.*
 Декъашхо:.*
 Демнч:.*
 Доакъашхо:.*
 Колдонуучу:.*
 Корбар:.*
 Корисник:.*
 Користувач:.*
 Кулланучы:.*
 Къошулуучу:.*
 Кыттааччы:.*
 Пайдаланыше:.*
 Польꙃєватєл҄ь:.*
 Потребител:.*
 Пырысь:.*
 Сирӹшӹ:.*
 Теиця:.*
 Тиись:.*
 Удзельнік:.*
 Уртах:.*
 Участник:.*
 Хоснователь:.*
 Хутшăнакан:.*
 Хэрэглэг(ч|шэ):.*
 ЦӀыхухэт:.*
 Қатысушы:.*
 Ҡатнашыусы:.*
 Մասնակից:.*
 באַניצער:.*
 משתמש:.*
 ئىشلەتكۈچى:.*
 ایشلدن:.*
 بەکارھێنەر:.*
 رُکُن:.*
 صارف:.*
 مستخدم:.*
 واپرائيندڙ:.*
 ورتنوالا:.*
 کاربر:.*
 کارن:.*
 کارور:.*
 کارگير:.*
 کاریار:.*
 ܡܦܠܚܢܐ:.*
 މެމްބަރު:.*
 अवयव:.*
 छ्येलेमि:.*
 प्रयोगकर्ता:.*
 वापरपी:.*
 सदस्य:.*
 सदस्यः:.*
 আতাকুরা:.*
 ব্যবহারকারী:.*
 সদস্য:.*
 ਵਰਤੋਂਕਾਰ:.*
 સભ્ય:.*
 ବ୍ୟବହାରକାରୀ:.*
 பயனர்:.*
 వాడుకరి:.*
 ಬಳಕೆದಾರೆ:.*
 ಸದಸ್ಯ:.*
 ഉപയോക്താവ്:.*
 පරිශීලක:.*
 ผู้ใช้:.*
 ຜູ້ໃຊ້:.*
 ၽူႈၸႂ်ႉတိုဝ်း:.*
 მომხმარებელი:.*
 አባል:.*
 អ្នកប្រើប្រាស់:.*
 ᱵᱮᱵᱷᱟᱨᱤᱭᱟᱹ:.*
 Ọbanife:.*
 利用者:.*
 用戶:.*
 用户:.*
 사용자:.*
 𐌽𐌹𐌿𐍄𐌰𐌽𐌳𐍃:.*

-- Cabayi (talk) 13:36, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

 Done MediaWiki:Titleblacklist-non-English-userpage is the error message. — JJMC89 (T·C) 19:09, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

Thanks JJMC89. I set up a list at Special:Permalink/881920122 to test the regex and a few slipped through...

• Bruger:Bazj, Bruker:Bazj, and Brukar:Bazj

which is my fault - Bru(ge|ka|ke)er should have been Bru(ge|ka|ke)r (final e needs to be removed)

• Agar-aramat:Bazj, Uza-na'in:Bazj, and Iōng-chiá:Bazj

does the - need to be escaped?

• Χρήστης:Bazj

looks like I mistakenly removed from the regex when deduping - it looks very similar to Χρήστες which was caught. Regards, Cabayi (talk) 18:08, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

 Done @Cabayi: For the hyphenated ones, the hyphen was missing above. — JJMC89 (T·C) 06:38, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Thanks JJMC89. All working now. Cabayi (talk) 08:44, 6 February 2019 (UTC)