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Category:State birds to Category:U.S. state birds[edit]

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The result of the debate was rename to United States state birds --Kbdank71 16:19, 14 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

For consistency with other, similar, categories. TexasAndroid 18:05, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Natives of Cornwall to Category:Cornish people[edit]

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The result of the debate was no consensus (no change) --Kbdank71 14:13, 6 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Natives of Cornwall implies only people who were born in Cornwall. People such as Daphne du Maurier (already in the category) and William Bligh (on the List of Cornish people) were not born in Cornwall, but are closely associated with the county, either because they spent most of their lives there, self-identified as being Cornish, or came from Cornish families. The new category title would allow people like this to be properly categorised. -- Necrothesp 22:50, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete, ethnic subcats. I'll go as far as England, Scotland, Wales and NI, but no farther. -Splash 23:57, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    • Seems a bit extreme, considering there are many categories already in existence for people from individual cities, let alone counties that have as much of an individual identity as Cornwall. -- Necrothesp 00:07, 30 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
      • Also seems extreme referring to England, Scotland and Wales as ethnic subcats when they are clearly countries. Hiding talk 10:22, 31 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
        • I didn't really mean that those ones were ethnic subcats; just that Cornwall is. The reason I'll go as far as England, Scotland, Wales and NI is because they are countries, even if they are part of a single(-ish) State. -Splash 03:06, 1 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
          • Some people believe Cornwall is also a country. Note even Northern Ireland's status as a country is unclear, which is why I did not list it myself. Note there is a Cornish language. More so, though, I believe if the United States can categorise people by state then it is equally acceptable to allow categorisation of people by county in the United Kingdom. I do not see how categorising people at a county level is instigating an ethnic breakdown. Hiding talk 09:59, 1 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, most certainly, Cornwall has a strong and fiercely defended identity. The rename I am unsure of however, perhaps Category:People of Cornwall might be better, it doesn't so strongly imply they are native, and Cornish people to me still implies they are born there to me. Hiding talk 08:26, 30 August 2005 (UTC) Rename talk 10:22, 31 August 2005 (UTC) Category:People from Cornwall, given Category:People by U.S. state uses predominately people from talk 10:04, 1 September 2005 (UTC) [reply]
  • Rename as suggested. James F. (talk) 13:34, 30 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep and move Cornish people who're not native to Cornwall to category:Cornish people. — Instantnood 13:39, September 1, 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep It's the standard term for such categories in the UK. It is possible to be a native of Cornwall without having any Cornish ethnicity. CalJW 03:58, 2 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per CalJW. Hiding talk 08:11, 2 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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State widgits[edit]

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The result of the debate was rename as nominated --Kbdank71 14:03, 6 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Category:U.S. state flags to Category:United States state flags
Category:U.S. state insignia by state to Category:United States state insignia
Category:U.S. state seals to Category:United States state seals
Category:U.S. state songs to Category:United States state songs

As is discussed in the State Birds discussion below, these are non-standard. Preference is to avoid abbreviations on category names. Discussion on State Birds was whether to follow normal preferences, or be consistant. I say let's move them all to where they should be, and be done with it. Then, both concerns are satisfied. :) -- TexasAndroid 21:23, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Category:U.S. state flags to Category:State flags of the United States
Category:U.S. state insignia by state to Category:State insignia of the United States
Category:U.S. state seals to Category:State seals of the United States
Category:U.S. state songs to Category:State songs of the United States
TexasAndroid 11:29, 30 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Retracting, so we don't get No Conscensous. TexasAndroid 14:01, 4 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename as suggested by the original poster - "State seals of the United Kingdom", for example, would refer to the seals of state of the country, not the seals of state of the states of the country, so "State seals of the United States" is highly confusing. James F. (talk) 13:34, 30 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Stannates[edit]

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The result of the debate was delete --Kbdank71 13:32, 6 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Empty category. TexasAndroid 18:23, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Stargate related[edit]

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The result of the debate was merge --Kbdank71 14:09, 6 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

At the best the name is confusing. I had to look through several of the articles to figure out what the category is for. Since it only has three articles, I would suggest moving them up to Category:Stargate. TexasAndroid 18:15, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. No argument. siafu 18:59, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • yup. i made it in sillyness. so DELETE. but not to be moved up to 'Stargate', because that category is so about the tv series, which the SG-3000 is not about.--alfakim 19:07, August 29, 2005 (UTC)
    • According to the article, SG-3000 is about the tv series. The category Stargate is for both the TV series and the movie/movie-books. 132.205.3.20 19:40, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    • If you do not want them merged up, please suggest a viable alternative. The articles need to live *somewhere* Stargate related. TexasAndroid 21:09, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • delete ∞Who?¿? 19:28, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • MERGE' with Category:Stargate 132.205.3.20 19:38, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge as suggested. James F. (talk) 13:34, 30 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge as suggested. --Kbdank71 13:34, 4 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Swedish statistical lists[edit]

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The result of the debate was delete --Kbdank71 13:32, 6 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Empty category. TexasAndroid 17:54, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. No argument. siafu 23:26, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Taba'een[edit]

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The result of the debate was keep --Kbdank71 13:57, 6 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Empty category. TexasAndroid 17:03, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. I just populated it based on Taba'een. siafu 23:25, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Changing my vote. saifu did a good job populating and parenting it. Now in use, no need to delete. TexasAndroid 00:56, 30 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Taba taba'een[edit]

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The result of the debate was delete --Kbdank71 13:32, 6 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Empty category. TexasAndroid 17:03, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. No articles to populate with. siafu 23:33, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Tarlo[edit]

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The result of the debate was delete --Kbdank71 13:32, 6 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Empty category. TexasAndroid 17:03, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. No argument. siafu 23:32, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, doesn't indicate any particular Tarlo and anyway the Tarlos with articles are unlikely to require categories. - choster 16:55, 1 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Technological Lists[edit]

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The result of the debate was delete --Kbdank71 13:32, 6 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Empty category. TexasAndroid 17:03, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. No argument. siafu 23:36, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Technology for geography[edit]

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The result of the debate was delete --Kbdank71 13:32, 6 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Empty category. TexasAndroid 17:03, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Teen Titans locations[edit]

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The result of the debate was delete --Kbdank71 13:32, 6 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Empty category. TexasAndroid 16:56, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Television channels in Spain[edit]

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The result of the debate was delete --Kbdank71 13:54, 6 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Empty category. TexasAndroid 16:56, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Temples of India[edit]

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The result of the debate was delete --Kbdank71 13:56, 6 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Empty category. (I know some of these could be speedied, but I'm tossing them up via CFD instead in case someone can make them useful instead. I see no rush to remove them.) TexasAndroid 16:28, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep and populate. I'm not very familiar with Hinduism, but there is Category:Mosques in India, so this one must surely have articles that could populate it. siafu 23:40, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as Category:Hindu_temples should suffice. As the great majority of Hindus, and logically the great majority of Hindu temples, will be located in India, I hold that renaming to Hindu temples in India á la Category:Hindu temples in Cambodia is overcategorization. For an analogue compare at Category:Shinto shrines. - choster 01:39, 30 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    • COMMENT That's not a valid analog. Shintoism is more or less Japan only. Hinduism spread across South-East asia and was the major religion before being displaced by Islam. 132.205.44.43 19:37, 30 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Empty and vague; are they Hindu temples? Buddhist temples? some other religion? If any of those would be useful, create and name them as such (which would also match most other categories for temples in specific countries). --Mairi 01:57, 30 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep and populate. It's not vague. It is about temples in a country, not temples of a religion. -- Reinyday, 00:29, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
  • COMMENT Submitter here. If one or another of the people suggesting "Keep and populate" would please do the populating, and give it a valid parent, I would gladly change my vote to Keep as well. As long as it stays empty and parentless, my vote stays Delete.
  • Delete. Empty. --Kbdank71 13:27, 4 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Templates for Hinduism[edit]

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The result of the debate was delete --Kbdank71 14:30, 5 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Empty category. TexasAndroid 16:28, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. No argument. siafu 23:49, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Tellurides[edit]

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The result of the debate was delete --Kbdank71 14:30, 5 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Empty category. TexasAndroid 16:28, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

And with category Tellurium compounds as well. Caerwine 19:57, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:The Atlas Games[edit]

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The result of the debate was delete --Kbdank71 14:30, 5 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Empty category. Large text already moved to Atlas Games (sports event). TexasAndroid 16:47, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. No argument. siafu 23:51, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Time travelers in Back to the Future[edit]

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The result of the debate was delete --Kbdank71 14:30, 5 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Empty category. TexasAndroid 16:31, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Torun[edit]

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The result of the debate was delete --Kbdank71 13:51, 6 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Empty category. TexasAndroid 16:28, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: it would probably be a good idea to have a soft redirect to Category:Toruń instead of just deletion, since the real name uses a non-English character. siafu 23:55, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Quarkonium[edit]

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The result of the debate was delete --Kbdank71 14:30, 5 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Empty category. Salsb 15:43, August 29, 2005 (UTC)

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Category:Australian Commonwealth ministries to Category:Ministries of Australia[edit]

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The result of the debate was keep --Kbdank71 14:32, 5 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Using "Australian Commonwealth" is awkward in any case. Here it is rather purposeless. I believe it should be renamed to "Ministries of Australia" because it sounds better, and so I can have sub-categories for State ministries. Cyberjunkie | Talk 14:42, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

  • Not well versed in Australian politics, but aren't there already State ministries sub-categorised in Category:Australian ministries, of which this is also a sub-category. For that reason, at this moment I vote keep. Hiding talk 21:58, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes. Rather sillily, I didn't notice that whilst working through the categories. However, I'd still like for the category to be renamed to Category:Ministries of Australia so that I incorporate all ministries, State and Commonwealth, under that title.--Cyberjunkie | Talk 14:04, 1 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, I think. James F. (talk) 13:34, 30 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep I prefer the current phrasing. It seems clearer for those who don't know how Australia is organised. CalJW
  • Okay. Perhaps its not clear how I would like the hierarchy. I think "Ministries of Australia" should be the umbrella category for all ministries in Australia. "Australian Commonwealth ministries" would become "Australian ministries", which is consistent with the naming used for State ministries (eg "Western Australian ministries"). Had I noticed "Australian ministries" in the first place, I would not have needed to make this nomination.--Cyberjunkie | Talk 17:57, 3 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Teen Titans characters to Category:Teen Titans animated series characters[edit]

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The result of the debate was rename --Kbdank71 13:49, 6 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like this category to be renamed, as it provides too much confusion between the animated and comic book versions of Teen Titans. --Apostrophe 05:46, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

  • Rename as suggested. James F. (talk) 13:53, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename Sounds like a logical move to lessen confusion. TexasAndroid 15:31, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename. No argument. siafu 23:59, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment although I agree with the proposed rename, I ask that certain users refrain from moving contents of categories before the end of a discussion. Although it may seem that the discussion is logical and going in one direction, making changes hours after the proposal is premature as it may change. Thanks. ∞Who?¿? 00:12, 30 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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Volcanoes[edit]

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The result of the debate was rename --Kbdank71 13:35, 6 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

We recently renamed "Hawaiian volcanoes" to the more standard "Volcanoes of Hawaii". This subcategory should follow the same pattern Nandesuka 04:08, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:British heritage railway companies to Category:British heritage railways[edit]

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The result of the debate was rename --Kbdank71 13:34, 6 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed as speedy rename on 26 August. Does not meet speedy rename criteria, listing here. ∞Who?¿? 00:19, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Should be straightforward enough. Agree. Grutness...wha? 02:21, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename (above was not vote, just listing). ∞Who?¿? 05:11, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename as suggested. James F. (talk) 13:53, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge as proposed. Bhoeble 14:05, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Question. Why is the word 'heritage' in the title? If it's because they have some protection from British Heritage, then either capitals are needed or a completely different title is. -Splash 23:57, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • I see this discussion has been preemtped. Why? -Splash 23:57, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    • Nothing to do with British Heritage. A heritage railway is a preserved railway still running steam or other vintage locomotives, primarily for tourists and rail enthusiasts. These are heritage railways in Britain, and the phrase "British heritage railways" would be understood as such by any railway enthusiast. Grutness...wha? 09:04, 30 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    • The same person created both of these categories, and decided that the first was a mistake. This shouldn't really have needed to go to a vote. The categorisation is done by template, and the relevant amendment was made three days before this listing, but it didn't take effect for some technical reason. See the talk page if you want, but this is a storm in a tea-cup. Bhoeble 01:42, 1 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
      • When categorisation is done by a template, any changes to the category name in the template require all articles containing the template to get null-edits before they will move to the new category (this is a problem I face all the time as a stub-sorter...) Grutness...wha? 10:31, 6 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:2005 in Science[edit]

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The result of the debate was delete --Kbdank71 14:30, 5 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:2004 in Science[edit]

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The result of the debate was delete --Kbdank71 14:30, 5 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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