Talk:Asteroids in fiction

Globalizing

1) Niewiadowski, Andrzej; Smuszkiewicz, Antoni (1990). Leksykon polskiej literatury fantastycznonaukowej (in Polish). Wydawn. Poznańskie. ISBN 978-83-210-0892-9 mentions a short story by Polish writer Witold Perkowicz (no pl wiki article yet) in his short story "Posłanie z piątej planety" (no pl wiki article yet but there is one for the anthology with the same title it was published in: Posłanie z piątej planety). They discuss it briefly saying that the story contains a sf explanation of the formation of an asteroid belt in Solar System, and they use this work as one of the exmaples of sf work that try to posit a scientific hypothesis for various phenomena. Actually you can see this entry, partially attributed this time, at https://encyklopediafantastyki.pl/index.php?title=Powie%C5%9B%C4%87_hipotezy Note the second example related to Tunguska event (pl:Witold Zegalski has article, his short story not yet), which does not seem to be mentioned in our article yet? It probably should have its own paragraph. More recently in Polish sf, Tunguska event is part of the setting of Dukaj's Ice (Dukaj novel). Plenty of sources for Dukaj: [1]. Note [2] which also helps with general context: "The Tunguska event of 1908 in central Siberia has provoked and inspired numerous theories"

2) anime: Knights of Sidonia [3]/[4]/[5], Cowboy Bebop (in particular, episode 'Asteroid Blues' [6], see also sources [7]) and Asteroid in Love come to mind. The first one is set on a hollowed asteroid spaceship/colony. The second one features asteroids in various episodes as locations or navigational hazards. Third one, see plot. There is more but I don't think there are RS for stuff like https://gineipaedia.com/wiki/Category:Asteroids or https://gundam.fandom.com/wiki/Palau / https://gundam.fandom.com/wiki/Axis , those may have to wait for SFE updates... --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 11:49, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

The Tunguska event is something of a tricky one to fit in here, because it hardly gets a mention by sources on the topic of asteroids in fiction. It does get mentioned by a couple of sources that discuss both fact and fiction—in the fact part of the text, as background. When its appearance in fiction gets mentioned by sources on other topics, it is often revealed to have some other cause (aliens or whatever). There's also the question of whether this belongs on a page about asteroids in fiction, as opposed to meteors/meteoroids/meteorites in fiction (or comets in fiction, for that matter—some sources mention it in a cometary context). I don't think it's a good idea to try to cover asteroids and meteors/meteoroids/meteorites in the same article, because while the asteroid–meteoroid distinction is a sliding scale, the "shooting star" phenomenon is really a completely different subject (for the record, Brian Stableford's Science Fact and Science Fiction: An Encyclopedia has one entry for "Asteroid" on pp. 40–41 and another for "Meteorite" on pp. 301–303, while Gary Westfahl's Science Fiction Literature through History: An Encyclopedia has one entry for "Asteroids" on pp. 139–141 and another for "Comets and Meteoroids" on pp. 205–207). I'm inclined to think we should have an impact events in fiction article, which I might work on when I'm done with this article and could incorporate material from both this article and comets in fiction, as well as others. We do however have a Tunguska event in popular culture article (though it is absolutely terrible at present), which I have linked in the "See also" section for now. I have also watchlisted that article (and its redirect Tunguska event in fiction—I'm inclined to think it should be moved back there) and may work on it in the future. TompaDompa (talk) 12:16, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

I have created an impact events in fiction article (currently, a stub). Feel free to add to it. TompaDompa (talk) 22:02, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

I'll take a look at the sources for globalizing later. TompaDompa (talk) 12:18, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

Alright, I have added Knights of Sidonia to the article as an example of converting asteroids into spacecraft. I think that will have to do for now. The explanation for the asteroid belt thing seems to be about the Phaëton hypothesis, which is well-covered in the article. TompaDompa (talk) 16:04, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Launchballer talk 07:57, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

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• ... that in many works of fiction, the asteroid belt is the remnants of a destroyed planet? Source: See the sources in the "Remnants of a planet" section, e.g. the "asteroids" entry of The Encyclopedia of Science Fiction and Gary Westfahl's Science Fiction Literature through History: An Encyclopedia , p.139
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  • Comment: I'm open to rephrasing the hook to make it more catchy.

Improved to Good Article status by TompaDompa (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 20 past nominations.

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TompaDompa (talk) 10:08, 23 March 2024 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Extremely nice and well done article about Asteroids in fiction. I am myself an avid reader of SF, but after reading this article I see myself as a novice. Length and time of creation are ok, the article seems to be well sourced through reference works (AGF assumed on references referring to non reachable pages) hook is cited and interesting, no obvious copyvio detected. QPQ has been done. Good to go! And now I am going to read the other articles of this author... Alex2006 (talk) 15:32, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

Why thank you, that's very kind. You may have noticed Comets in fiction currently on the WP:Main page as the DYK picture hook today. Otherwise, I would consider Mars in fiction my magnum opus, as it were. I would also like to spotlight Venus in fiction, which I can only take partial credit for as it was written in collaboration with Piotrus. TompaDompa (talk) 15:49, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

Red Links

I know this is a pretty recent GA, and I'm not asking for any re-evaluation or anything, but is this many red links standard in an article? Typically those are removed or not used at all. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 13:32, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

On topics like this, yes. The gaps in our coverage of science fiction are unfortunately substantial. On the flip side, that means that there are a lot of potential articles to write for anyone interested in doing so. TompaDompa (talk) 13:46, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

I see. I'm not too well associated with this project, so if this is standard, then that's fine, but I did just want to make sure in any case. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 01:45, 25 April 2024 (UTC)