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Typo in Release Section[edit]

At the very beginning of the Release section the character Satsuki from Totoro is misspelled as Satuski. Since the entry is protected I can't edit it but it should be fixed by someone if possible. JarodColdbreak (talk) 04:26, 20 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. Thanks for spotting it! Popcornduff (talk) 06:10, 20 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Use of non-free Images (again)[edit]

This issue has been previously discussed a while back. The article contains about four non-free images: The Film's poster, two screencaps from the film, and an image from the book "Majo no Takkyūbin". This seems very unusual for a Ghibli-related article, considering that none of the other Ghibli films have non-free screencaps of the films. Yoshiman6464 ^♫🥚 03:00, 25 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewing the images, they appear to be supported by reliably-sourced contextual significance. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 03:23, 25 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Erik: Thank you so much. Yoshiman6464 ^♫🥚 17:23, 25 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"Themes and Analysis"? Really?[edit]

Is it just me, or does the entire "Themes and Analysis" section seem pretty highfalutin for an animated feature? What's next—psychoanalyzing Spongebob Squarepants? – AndyFielding (talk) 12:07, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Clarification on Miyazaki's Research Trip to Sweden for Kiki's Delivery Service[edit]

This sentence seems to be a bit wrong: "As the novel is based on a fictional northern European country, Miyazaki and his team traveled to locations such as Visby, Sweden, to research its landscape.". After reading more about this it seems he didn't travel to Sweden for research but after traveling to Sweden for a meeting with Astrid Lindgren he took reference photos of Stockholm and Visby for the animated Pippi Långstrump series but after being denied the visit to talk to Astrid Lindgren he went on to do other things, and after coming back to Japan he found his reference photos of Sweden and used it in the movie, since it fitted the movie.

References in Swedish for this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfzJzOsXEOo (This short youtube clip has English subtitles)

Tillsammans med Yutaka Fujiota (ordförande för produktionsbolaget Tokyo Movie Shinsha) reste Miyazaki till Sverige för att försöka skaffa rättigheterna till att animera Pippi Långstrump. Man hade då redan påbörjat storyboard-arbetet. Astrid Lindgren tackade dock nej till det hela. Resan var dock inte helt förgäves, eftersom man bekantade sig med de svenska miljöerna, vilka senare bland annat skulle komma att dyka upp i Kikis expressbud. (This text was taken from https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayao_Miyazaki#Efter_Toei,_f%C3%B6re_Ghibli 2024-06-05) ELEMENTLHERO (talk) 17:22, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for opening this discussion! I'm rather apprehensive about including any text in the article based on that YouTube video as there's no immediate reason I would presume it to be reliable — feel free to let me know if I'm missing something. If you find any other sources that meet the threshold of reliability outlined in the guideline I linked, please feel free to be bold and include them in the article. Let me know if you have any questions. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 22:45, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the reply, yes the Youtube video was more of a short summery of it, but below I included a reference to the Swedish Wikipedia article stating the same. But I did a little digging and found this:

https://www.astridlindgren.com/se/sv-faq In this FAQ from the author's company Astrid Lindgren AB (basically incorporated) they have a section on this meeting Miyazaki wanted to have with Astrid Lindgren. For conviniance I will paste the excerpt from the site:

"I början på 1970-talet, innan Studio Ghibli hade grundats, involverades Hayao Miyazaki och Isao Takahata i det japanska bolaget A-productions planer på att göra en animerad Pippi Långstrump. Miyazaki åkte tillsammans med chefen för bolaget till Sverige för att be om filmrättigheterna, och även för att rekognoscera. Väl i Stockholm fick de beskedet att Astrid Lindgren inte kunde träffa dem.

I en intervju säger Miyazaki att han var besviken på att Beta Film som agerade mellanhand inte hade ordnat det bättre i förväg, ”men å andra sidan var det ju ganska självklart. Inte träffar man väl någon som plötsligt bara dyker upp från ett hörn av Asien och säger ’jag vill göra en animering av er bok’”.

Vid den här tiden var Miyazaki alltså i början av sin karriär och varken han själv eller japansk anime och manga var känt i Sverige. Omständigheterna gjorde att Astrid Lindgren aldrig träffade Hayao Miyazaki. Hon var dessutom i grunden emot tecknade versioner av sina berättelser. Inte förrän i slutet av 90-talet blev hon övertalad att ge tillstånd till den kanadensiska animerade Pippi-serien och den blev hon inte särskilt nöjd med.

Hade Astrid Lindgren tackat ja till en ny förfrågan, efter att hon fått se Studio Ghiblis berömda filmer? Det kan vi inte veta, och för Hayao Miyazaki var frågan inte aktuell. Han har sagt: ”Vi lade ner en enorm möda på att göra det vi tänkte att vi ville göra. Det tog all min energi, så nu vill jag inte längre göra det. Det är bara så det är. Animering är verkligen något som man inte kan lyckas med om man inte lägger ner ett enormt och hängivet arbete.”

Miyazaki fick ändå en del nytta av det bildmaterial han gjort i samband med sin Sverigeresa. I Panda Kopanda har scenen flyttats till Japan men vad gäller karaktärer och interiörer används mycket av det han hade gjort som förberedelse till Pippi och till staden Koriko i Kikis expressbud hämtade han inspiration från sådant han sett under ett besök i Visby.

Källa: Boken Maboroshi no Pippi Longstocking (”The Phantom Pippi Longstocking”) (Studio Ghibli, 2014) och Astrid Lindgren Aktiebolag."

This also references a first hand source which I haven't read, the book "Maboroshi no nagakutsushita no Pippi". Since the company "Astrid Lindgren AB" is the one having ownership over all of her works I would say it is very reliable without having checked in the book. ELEMENTLHERO (talk) 11:07, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

About the unreliable sources tag[edit]

Dani Cavallaro's publications have been designated as generally unreliable sources in this discussion at the reliable sources noticeboard. Citations to her work can be replaced with more high-quality ones or removed, and the tag can be taken off once complete. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 19:56, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]