Talk:Legal affairs of Donald Trump as president

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Non-notable cases[edit]

I propose that the following lines be deleted, at least until someone is willing to write an article. Rhadow (talk) 15:25, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Rhadow (talk) 15:25, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It's Juliana v. United States, and wp:Notable, Our Children's Trust is wp:notable ... and did the justice4america.org item used to be there? X1\ (talk) 07:29, 7 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]


References

  1. ^ Neela Banerjee (November 17, 2017). "Appeals Court Takes Up Youth Climate Change Lawsuit Against Trump". InsideClimateNews.org. Retrieved 26 December 2017.
  2. ^ "Trump Named as a Defendant in Landmark Climate Lawsuit". E&E News. February 10, 2017. Retrieved 26 December 2017 – via ScientificAmerican.com.

Is cease-and-desist a "lawsuit"; if so, add?[edit]

CNN’s parent company sent a cease-and-desist letter accusing the Trump campaign of misusing the network’s news coverage in a way that is “false, misleading and deceptive.” WarnerMedia claims a new ad from the Trump re-election campaign titled, “American Comeback,” takes a segment about the threat of the coronavirus on CNN out of context. The letter claims the Trump campaign ad “purposely and deceptively edits the clip” to imply that Wolf Blitzer and Dr. Sanjay Gupta were praising Trump’s January travel ban for saving millions of American lives, “when in fact Mr. Blitzer and Dr. Gupta were discussing recently implemented social distancing guidelines and stay-at-home orders issued by state and local governments.” The letter “hereby demands” that the campaign stop airing the ad, which “has been distorted in such a way as to mislead the public.”[1][2]

X1\ (talk) 07:15, 7 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No, it is not a lawsuit. We are not going to add copyright idiocracy. I will also remind you that the president of United States can violate any copyright he wants to that is permited by law (more accurately everything he post becomes public domain, all copyright is destroyed, see http://www.genericfairuse.com/2017/04/20/president-donald-trump-and-ip/). But we can add Trump letter about CNN poll.109.252.171.205 (talk) 14:24, 28 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/04/media/trump-campaign-ad-cease-and-desist/index.html
  2. ^ https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-05/trump-reboots-2020-message-to-play-up-post-virus-era-not-crisis

Plaintiff or defendant?[edit]

@Tuckerlieberman: Here, you added text about some lawsuit related to the January 6 Capitol storming attempt, under the subheading Lawsuits around the January 6, 2021, attack. This would have been quite logical, if this had been the main heading. However, it isn't, so you added the stuff under the general section heading Trump as plaintiff. Was this on purpose, or by mistake?

Now, if it was on purpose: In the cases themselves, Trump definitely would be a defendant, not a plaintiff. However, it is true that in the attempt to stop this suit Trump was "the appellant", not "the appelee". In your opinion, does this turn Trump to "the plaintiff as far as the appeal is considered?" In that case, there may be more text about various appeals which should be moved from the Trump as defendant to the plaintiff section. Else, IMHO, your addition should be moved down to the defendant section; perhaps to the Lawsuits around 2020 election fraud claims subsection, or to a new one? JoergenB (talk) 14:10, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! @JoergenB Thanks for noticing that. Yes, it was probably just my error. I don't even remember when I made this edit. Indeed I was probably focused on the subheading "Lawsuits around Trump's financial and tax information" and somehow overlooked the bigger "Trump as plaintiff" heading.
It seems you've put thought into it already, so please go ahead and rearrange or correct it as you see fit. Thanks! Sorry for my error. Tuckerlieberman (talk) 17:22, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
OK@Tuckerlieberman; I moved it to the Lawsuits around 2020 election fraud claims subsection. JoergenB (talk) 17:53, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@JoergenB Thanks for fixing it. Tuckerlieberman (talk) 18:25, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Word "around" in section titles is not ideal?[edit]

What's up with the use of "around" in the section titles? Such as Lawsuits around the United States Census? That sounds very unnatural, and may confuse lots of readers (especially non-native speakers of English). Better would be something like:

  • Lawsuits involving the United States Census
  • Lawsuits concerning the United States Census
  • Lawsuits pertaining to the United States Census
  • Lawsuits related to United States Census

or something like that.

Any objections tot changing the word "around" to "concerning" in the section titles? Noleander (talk) 13:10, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Civil vs criminal cases[edit]

It is not clear if this article is supposed to include criminal cases or not. The word "lawsuits" is used a lot, indicating that the article maybe is limited civil cases. But the title of the article is "legal affairs" suggesting both criminal & civil. Complicating matters: there are quite a few legal actions/pladings/claims that are handled by civil courts, but are related to criminal matters.

Also: is the article supposed to be limited to legal matters that were _initiated_ when Trump was president? And excludes those initiated after he left the office?

Question: should the intro of this article make it clear that criminal legal matters are also within the scope of this article? Of course, 99% of the text related to the criminal cases would be located in other, existing articles, but this article could contain links. Noleander (talk) 02:02, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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