User:The Rambling Man/ERRORS/archive2
August 2018
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2 August 2018 | OTD | 1790 United States Census | "to allocate Congressional seats and electoral votes." I'm not really seeing this, and if it's what I think it's referring to, it's not referenced either. Would be better to focus on the key item which is the gathering of population data. | Yes. Changed hook to The first United States Census was conducted, with the United States residential population enumerated to be 3,929,214. |
Kuwaiti military | Pipe to a redirect | Yes. | ||
DYK | Michael Peter Kaye | "... largest registry of heart and lung transplantation data..." the "registry of" should be included in the link. | Yes | |
Purple eagle ray | "that the purple eagle ray was named after Ronald Hamlyn-Harris, director of the Queensland Museum?" well, the Latin name was named after Hamlyn-Harris, this is quite misleading. | Yes | ||
3 August 2018 | DYK | creeping comb jelly | "... that the creeping comb jelly lives on the surface of a starfish (pictured) in the Echinasteridae family?" the Echinasteridae family is not mentioned in the "creeping comb jelly" article and thus this DYK fails basic checks. Even the Echinaster luzonicus article only mentions the family in the infobox, and that's unreferenced...
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Yes |
Behzod Abduraimov | Is not the demonym for Uzbekistan "Uzbek" and not "Uzbekistani" (per our own article too)?
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Not an error | ||
R. H. Wilenski | "Selected publications" section is highly under-referenced and tagged, should be removed until addressed. [NB " the publication itself is a citation for its own authorship" this is not true, how can readers verify this? You could simply write a load of nonsense unlinked unsourced titles and simply claim "oh, the publication verifies itself". Nope. Furthermore "we can't include a citation for the decision to select those publications and not others, because if a list of selected publications is taken from a copyrighted source then that makes the list a copyright violation", more craziness, firstly the point missed it "why are these selected"? No inclusion criteria stated, another issue. Next, who mentioned anything about a copyrighted list? Bizarre. |
Yes | ||
Chang and Eng Bunker | It is absolutely bonkers that an article with this many interesting images has been tucked away as the fifth or so hook. It should be moved to another queue where it can feature the lead image, and guarantee >10K hits.
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Yes, moved to prep 6 | ||
Vampyr | How does the hook meet supplementary rule C6 when all it is doing is describing "in-game" actions? If the DYK project want to drop that rule for the quirky slot, they should do that, but right now, no.
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Yes | ||
OTD | Firestone Tire and Rubber Company | Harvey Firestone is piped to a redirect.
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Yes. Replaced with 1913. If there are any problems with that hook, let me know. | |
Kruševo Republic | "... which existed only ten days before ..." -> " which existed for only ten days before" | Yes | ||
Jesse Owens | "..dashing Nazi leaders' hopes of Aryan domination." well, not quite, because if that had been the case, I doubt we'd have had a Second World War. But perhaps "dashing Nazi leaders' hopes of Aryan domination at the Olympics" or similar is what is really meant. | Yes | ||
Thomas Francis Meagher | The only source in the article that I can see which notes his birthdate is this one which clearly states "Meagher was born in Waterford on 23rd August 1823..." So, not OTD tomorrow then...
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4 August 2018 | DYK | Franz Schubert | "600 vocal works and seven complete symphonies, gave only one" see MOS:NUM for comparable items ("cats and dogs"), all words or all numbers, no mixtures. This was already pointed out at WT:DYK. | Yes |
Butyrolactol A | "...that Butyrolactol A, a ..." no need for capital B here. | Yes | ||
Mangrove kingfisher | "that the mangrove kingfisher, found in Africa, sometimes collides with human structures while migrating?" you mean like all birds everywhere around the entire globe who sometimes fly into windows? How is this interesting? | Yes | ||
Maria and Bogdan Kalinowski | "are a married couple from Poznań, Poland, who are known as the most avid filmgoers in Poland. They watch films in ..." is how the article starts. Bogdan, however, is dead. The hook and the article are written as if they are still a couple and still doing this... | Yes | ||
OTD | Public holidays in the Cook Islands | " in the Cook Islands (1965)" where in the target article is 1965 mentioned, let alone referenced?
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Yes | |
Mount Asama | No need to link basic words like "famine". The article doesn't say "cataclysmic", it says "climactic".
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Yes | ||
Treaty of London (1839) | Article uses "World War I", not "First World War" | Yes | ||
5 August 2018 | OTD | Victory Day (Croatia) | First, why not just "Victory Day" per the article title? Second, if not that, then why not observe the D in Defenders?
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Yes |
John Ruthven, 3rd Earl of Gowrie | "died during a failed attempt to kidnap King James VI" seems quite certain compared with the article which discusses various theories around what happened (see the Theories section), so this blurb should be caveated, e.g. "died most likely during..." | Yes | ||
Bertha Benz | "going 106 km" why not simply "driving 106 km"? There are also quite a few unreferenced paragraphs here... | Yes | ||
DYK | Flag of Sioux Falls, South Dakota | "of the Flag of Sioux Falls" - no capital F | Yes | |
Pharmacist-to-pharmacy technician ratio | Like the article, the hook is US-centric and therefore needs context for this so-called "general increase" in the ratio. Plus, why did the term in the article "cashier" become "retail clerk"? Oh, and it's tagged per {{globalize}} now.
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Yes (just) | ||
Steel Division 2 | No mention in the prose of "half the team" being on strike | Yes | ||
Konstantin Petrovich Nechaev | Target has been moved, so an ugly redirect from the main page now exists | Yes | ||
6 August 2018 | DYK | Sechs Lieder, Op. 68 (Strauss) | "...composed Sechs Lieder, Op. 68, on poems... " does one "compose on" things? was it really "based on"? | Yes |
OTD | Battle of Kletsk | Infobox and lead of article say this battle took place of 5 August
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Yes, replaced with Death of Mark Duggan/2011 England riots | |
TFL | List of World Heritage Sites in Slovenia | Apparently a "World Heritage Site" is now a "World Heritage site", so when the page was moved, all other such references should have been modified. Clearly this wasn't the case, and we now have capital "S" here in the blurb with also a redirect to the small "s" variant. When moving such heavily referenced articles, all references should be correctly updated. | Yes | |
7 August 2018 | DYK | Flight Stop | How many times can we mention "goose" in the hook? Three times... And linked location in caption is unnecessary | Yes, de-goosed |
Clifford Braimah | "head of Ghana Water, is..." the company he is head of is called "Ghana Water Company" and has been thus named for some time. | Yes, fixed name | ||
ContraPoints | The hook links "right-wing" but not "left-leaning", the latter of which is more obscure than the former. Either both, or neither, but not just one... Plus it turns out that ContraPoints isn't a channel per se, but a YouTuber in her own right. | Yes, linked | ||
Robert Edgeworth-Johnstone | "from the aluminum brass tubing" British English, should be "ALUMINIUM"....
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Yes | ||
OTD | Le Griffon | Image caption needs italics | Yes | |
Pope Stephen III | "The papacy of Pope Stephen III,..." tautological here, no need to repeat "Pope". | Yes | ||
Le Griffon (redux) | "became the first sailing ship to navigate the upper Great Lakes" well according to the article, August 7 was the date the voyage commenced, not when the ship successfully navigated the Great Lakes.
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Yes, reworded per chat over there < | ||
Simele massacre | "An estimated 3,000 Assyrians were slaughtered " the lead (rather terrible it is) says "The term is used to describe not only the massacre in Simele, but also the killing spree that took place among 63 Assyrian villages in the Dohuk and Mosul districts that led to the deaths of between 5,000[1][not in citation given] and 6,000[2][not in citation given][3][not in citation given] Assyrians. "
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Yes, article fixed and blurb changed to "600–3,000" | ||
1998 United States embassy bombings | "injuring more than 4,500 others." article says "An estimated 4,000 in Nairobi were wounded, and another 85 in Dar es Salaam.[citation needed]" and infobox says "4,000" | Yes | ||
Jin Shengtan | Where is the date of death inline referenced? | Now referenced. All the references states is that 7 August 1661 was the date he was beheaded, and doesn't confirm he died. I hope this gross assumption is ok. | ||
Huntley Wright | Where is the date of birth referenced? Just saying "it's on the birth certificate" is all very well (and could apply to just about every single bio in Wikipedia) but how does our readership verify this? | Yes, reference added | ||
8 August 2018 | DYK | Torrance Barrens | "first dark-sky reserve?" well the article uses the term "preserve" much more frequently, our own article is at "preserve", and the sources referencing it generally call it a preserve. And is it "dark-sky preserve" or "dark sky preserve"? Consistency please. Oh, and the article refers to it as "The Torrens Barrens" not simply "Torrens Barrens".
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Changes to article reverted Fixed again |
Deutsche Reiterliche Vereinigung | "horse as a "cultural achievement"?" the article doesn't put this claim in quotes, consistency please. Also, I'm not sure how "Kulturgut Pferd" translates to "cultural achievement" either. | Yes | ||
Farouk Topan | Works of fiction unreferenced in both the prose and the table. | Yes, OCLC/ISBNs added to table | ||
OTD | 8888 Uprising | "one-party state" is piped to a redirect back to itself | Yes | |
2008 Studénka train wreck | "There were 8 deaths and 64 injured when a EuroCity express train en route to Prague" odd phrasing. I would expect "A EuroCity train en route to Prague struck a part of a motorway bridge that had fallen onto the track near Studénka station and derailed, killing 8 people and injuring 64.
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Yes | ||
9 August 2018 | DYK | Teuira Henry | "a lost manuscript describing Tahitian history by using her English missionary grandfather's notes" it wasn't just any old "lost manuscript", it was her grandfather's lost manuscript, so it should be "her English missionary grandfather's lost manuscript.... using his notes..." | Yes |
Lyngsjö Church | " the golden antependium of Lyngsjö Church" -> it's "gilt copper", "golden" only appears once, unreferenced in a caption.
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Yes | ||
Vale Park, New Brighton | " that brass bands have been a feature of Vale Park since its opening in 1899, when a brass band played..." no need to repeat "brass band", maybe "when one played..." | Yes | ||
OTD | Image | The image has no associated blurb | Yes - replaced - see below | |
Battle of Mulhouse | "France launched its first attack of the war ..." article says "which began on 7 August 1914"... | Yes - Replaced with Nagasaki, both bolded articles are GA, has image | ||
Sbarro restaurant suicide bombing | "Fifteen people were killed and 130 others" MOS NUM (cats and dogs) comparable figures (all words or all figures, and don't start sentences with figures...) Also " bomber attacked at a" no need for "at" here. |
Yes | ||
10 August 2018 | DYK | Carlos Hermosillo Arteaga | I'm not really seeing why this is even of note. The article makes a suggestion that he might have unlawfully acquired these but isn't really clear. A lot of people own six houses.
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No |
Eveline Crone | "... led The Netherlands to..." no need for capital T in the Netherlands | Yes | ||
Pennella exocoeti | " on a flyingfish was" flying fish is not one word unless referring to a specific species by name | Yes | ||
OTD | Expulsion of the Acadians | Maritime provinces is piped to a redirect | Yes - I moved the page itself from The Maritimes to Maritimes. The definite article didn't seem appropriate per WP:THE. | |
Louvre | Why not also mention the 184 objets d'art that were also present on opening day? | Yes | ||
Operation Camargue | The article seems to consistently italicise Camarge | Yes | ||
Suzanne Collins | Date of birth is not in the provided reference | Yes it is, [2] says "Born: 1962-08-10". Is it the date format you don't like? Would [3] do instead? :I've switched it to a better reference.[4] — Amakuru (talk) 10:11, 9 August 2018 (UTC) | ||
Bay of Fundy Campaign | Has been moved and hence an ugly redirect is used for the bold target link now... | Now fixed | ||
TFA | Bill McCann | Gallipoli Campaign takes a capital C | Yes | |
TFL | Other links | World Heritage Sites in Slovenia was moved a while ago (small s in site), and we don't "target" redirects so this should have been changed too | Yes | |
12 August 2018 | OTD | Cleopatra | Given the article says it's uncertain whether she committed suicide on 10 or 12 August, it seems a bit bold of OTD to make this definitive statement of fact
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Yes, replaced with Battle of Halen |
Quagga | "the Artis Magistra zoo" why not use the correct title, per the article, of the " Natura Artis Magistra zoo"? | Yes | ||
Babrra massacre | North-West Frontier Province in the blurb is a dab link | Yes | ||
Sue (dinosaur) | "a Tyrannosaurus ever" well the article, numerous times, explains its a Tyrannosaurus Rex (i.e. the species itself, rather than just any old member of the genus | Yes | ||
TFP | Cigaritis cilissa | " endemic to the Middle East" well the article just says (unreferenced) that it's "found" in several countries, including Turkey (the only citation in the article mentions Syria and Kurdistan, not the other countries listed in the micro-stub article) | Yes - removed any mention of its range. Should we really be having a TFP whose article consists of one line which doesn't actually agree with its source? Mind you, nothing surprises me any more. Black Kite (talk) 16:06, 11 August 2018 (UTC) | |
DYK | Wood-Tikchik State Park | " that the Wood-Tikchik State Park, the" no need for the first "the"... | Yes | |
Grace Macurdy | "...shaped the field of classics and the study of ancient history ..." a VERY bold claim which I'm struggling to see substantiated by the single source used to reference it | A matter of opinion perhaps, but the source does say amongst other things that her work is still of "major intellectual consequence today" and she's acknowledged as a pioneer in the field, so arguably the description is merited. Gatoclass (talk) 07:44, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
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General | A Chinese spy and a Chinese physicist featured in the same set? | Replaced the physicist with Michael Martin (engineer). Gatoclass (talk) 08:21, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
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Q'ursha | "hunting dog Q'ursha had eagle's wings," well according to the article, it was allegedly "born of either a raven or an eagle, and is sometimes depicted as having wings" so come on, let's not make even more stuff up. I mean "and a leap that stretched across the earth" isn't even mentioned in the article for the love of everything holy. | Tweaked. Gatoclass (talk) 08:46, 11 August 2018 (UTC) | ||
13 August 2018 | OTD | Maurice (emperor) | "emperor Tiberius II Constantine named Maurice as his successor" well he was named by someone else (the senior judicial official), but in any case, what is referencing this? I see " Paul, III, ch. 15" but that appears to me to be unverifiable
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Yes |
Battle of Lewisham | National Front is piped to a redirect | Yes | ||
TFP | The Rape of the Daughters of Leucippus | Surprise!!! None of the article is inline referenced, in particular claims used in the blurb such as "presently in the collection of the Alte Pinakothek in Munich, Germany" | No | |
DYK | Caption | Rheinmaiden is already linked in the top hook, it doesn't need overlooking in the caption. | Yes | |
Marie Lehmann (soprano) | Article chronology is all over the place and doesn't match the RS given (e.g the backwards in time thing, the "and finally at the Vienna Court Opera from 1891 until 1896," claim which the RS (Grove Book of Opera Singers) clearly states as "from 1882 to 1896 etc etc). I guess that's what QPQ gives you, check the hook, bugger the rest of the article. | Some work done (although still curious how it passed QPQ) | ||
Robert Lebel (ice hockey) | " inaugural class of three ice hockey halls of fame?" turns out two of these three are actual non-notable. I suppose I could write about myself being second-highest scorer for my club team one season based on that kind of notability. | No - non-notable halls of fame are perfectly acceptable!! | ||
Royden Park | Basically self-promotional. There's no good reason for the word "fine" to be in the hook as it's primary sourced to the organisation themselves. And honestly, we want to put on our main page such an advert with prose like "many people are surprised at the power of the locomotives", "offering a pleasant display"? QPQ strikes again. | A little chuckle in that in the UK in this context "fine" means "small"! I'm fine with it being removed! The other wording is a little clunky, i'm rather unfussed whether it is changed or deleted.
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Badr Shirvani | "received patronage from numerous rulers?" what makes this actually interesting is that the patronage came from different rulers at the same time. Thousands of individuals have received "patronage from numerous rulers" but simultaneously? Oh, and "present-day Republic of Azerbaijan" is just called "Azerbaijan", not "Republic of Azerbaijan"... | Yes | ||
14 August 2018 | OTD | Villasur expedition | " intended to check French influence" since "check" can be interpreted in two very different ways (e.g. halt vs inspect), better to use a different phrasing for our international English-speaking readers | Yes, slow the progress |
General | Seminoles, Pawnees and Otoes in one set, consecutive blurbs? | Yes | ||
Caption | "Roosevelt and Churchill aboard USS Augusta (CA-31)" Should be "USS Augusta" and not sure the (CA-31) detail is required? | Yes. Left CA-31 in as there are multiple boats with the same name. I'm not sure of the guideline surrounding main page caption linking, so if that's allowed, we can link it and remove the parentheses. Anarchyte (work | talk) 07:23, 13 August 2018 (UTC) | ||
DYK | V bombers | Hook is a complete mouthful. The article notes it much more concisely "During the Cuban Missile Crisis, each V force squadron kept one fully [nuclear-] armed aircraft and crew at 15 minutes' readiness". Concision!!
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Yes (although error on the main page for 10 hours at least) | |
Ben Judd | "American video game producer Ben Judd is fluent in Japanese, speaking the Kansai dialect?" Wow, an American who can speak Japanese?? That's FASCINATING. | Yes. | ||
Loggerheads Country Park | "that Loggerheads Country Park has a corn mill powered by a water wheel?" well it has a water wheel which has been restored, but no mention in the article of it currently being an active corn mill using the power from the water wheel.
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Yes (the "on reflection" edit changed the sense of the hook entirely to my way of thinking) | ||
Psalm 138 | " children's choir, choir, African" very odd wording indeed. I get it, sort of, but the phrasing is awful. | Yes | ||
TFP | Filling station | "also known under a wide variety of names," what is the point of this? And what's really fucked up about this is that we have one sentence about an obscure bird that no-one's likely to ever see, but an extensive paragraph about a "filling station" where "customers can purchase snacks and other goods" (REALLY?). TFP blurbs need SERIOUS help. | No | |
15 August 2018 | DYK | Piano Sonata No. 2 (Chopin) | "Piano Sonata No. 2, his first mature piano sonata" repetitive, and what is a "mature" sonata? It's not explained here or in the article. | Yes. Removed the phrase about it being his first mature sonata, and the hook still stands without it. |
Harold Spitznagel | " that prominent South Dakota architect" why "prominent"? This term isn't used in the article at all, prominence, after all, is in the eye of the beholder. | Yes. "Prominent" removed. | ||
Patricia A. Gabow | "using a system based on the Toyota Production System" actually, she used "lean manufacturing" which literally tens of thousands of companies have used to do just exactly the same thing. This is absolutely mundane, not remarkable or innovative in any sense, and has no interest to anyone. Unless of course we're being patronising enough to suggest this is notable because she's a woman....!!
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No | ||
Djajadiningrat family | Still categorised as a "stub" | Yes, but shouldn't this be checked at QPQ?? | ||
TFP | Passiflora caerulea | " It may grow to 10 m (33 ft) or more." not referenced (that whole section of the article is unref)
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Yes | |
OTD | Victory over Japan Day | Unverifiable, but even then, there is no coverage of commemoration in the UK outside of the lead half-sentence. | Yes, removed | |
Raphael Morgan | Article says he was "thought to be" the first Black Orthodox priest | Yes | ||
History of South Korea | Blurb says "The Republic of Korea was established" but article opens with "The history of South Korea formally begins with its establishment on August 17, 1948, although Rhee Syngman had officially declared independence two days prior." so this is a little odd. | Yes, lead changed in aricle | ||
ITN | Ponte Morandi | Death toll has been officially set at 26 for now, the 35 was unofficial and Wikipedia should know better... | Yes | |
16 August 2018 | DYK | Barbara Haviland Minor | "produced by OEMs in" don't use abbreviations without explaining them first, and actually I'm not even sure what this brings to the hook other than BLOAT. And it's not actually "her" refrigerant, she led the team which developed it.
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No, NOW NOTED AT ERRORS (some 20 hours later).... HAS BEEN ON THE MAIN PAGE FOR 15 HOURS!!!!! |
John Zamet | "that periodontist John Zamet was..." avoid false titles and link technical term Periodontology
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Linked. Not sure about the false title issue. See question. | ||
OTD | Siege of Detroit | "to the British Army." well the term "British Army" is never used in the article, but "British and Native Americans" seems to be. | Yes, changed to "British–Native American force" | |
1906 Valparaíso earthquake | "Chile, killing 3,886 people." Lead says this (unreferenced) but article/infobox claims 3,882. | Yes, article/blurb changed to 3,882 per cited source | ||
2015 Attock bombing | Blurb says "killed at least 22 others at his home." but article lead says "The blasts killed the minister and at least 21 other people", needs thorough review for consistency and updates. Sources in the Shuja Khanzada also conflict with one another, and uncertain whether the total included Shuja Khanzada or not. | Yes | ||
ITN | Ponte Morandi | Once again the total is wrong... | Yes | |
Ghazni offensive | "for 4 days." anyone updating the main page should have a appreciation of MOS:NUM... | Yes | ||
17 August 2018 | DYK | Washington, My Home | "replace its motto "Alki" with "For You and Me, a Destiny"" according to the article (a featured list) says the motto is Al-ki, not Alki. That FL also states that the motto is "fully unofficial" which is an important distinguishing factor between it and all other US state mottos and ought to be mentioned too. It is also worth noting that the song in question is already the "state song" for Washington... | Yes |
Great Island | " that the 12,000 inhabitants of Great Island in Cork Harbour are served by a single 200-year-old road bridge?" well, and a rail bridge as well. And the article says "a population of between 12,000 and 14,000" not simply "12,000".
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Yes. Pulled and reopened nom. | ||
OTD | Qixi Festival | No verifiable reference for the date this year
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Yes | |
Battle of Verneuil | "in the bloody ..." really? Aren't most battles "bloody"? Seems unnecessary.
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No | ||
Scottish Reformation | Catholicism as the national religion pipe to a redirect. It also says "adopted a Protestant" but the article says that the act was "approved", not adopted. | Yes | ||
Animal Farm | Where is the publication date verifiably referenced?
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Yes | ||
Michael Phelps | Blurb is far too long and clunky, has a pipe to a redirect for "4×100 m medley relay ", mentions "Olympic" three times, the second clause (the 14 golds) doesn't seem to be mentioned explicitly in the article etc...
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Yes | ||
18 August 2018 | DYK | Capodimonte porcelain | Where to begin? The snuffbox image and the factory are very lightly related (the caption or the pictured need something like "produced in the factory"), what does "sealife" mean here (there's no mention of "sealife" in the image description, and the article calls it "shell-shaped"), what is "paste" in this context? And "5 tons" should be "five tons". | Yes |
OTD | Margaret of Valois | "was wedded to" why not "married"?? | Yes | |
Margaret of Valois | Let's get the caption and the blurb names to be consistent... | Yes | ||
Fifth Test, 1948 Ashes series | Really, given the blurb, this is the wrong target, which should, in fact, be Australian cricket team in England in 1948, and there should also be mention of The Invincibles in the blurb too.
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Yes, thanks Harrias | ||
TFP | Indonesian rupiah | Once again the blurb contains material that is completely unverifiable in the target article.
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Yes, with thanks | |
ITN | Aretha Franklin | A deliberate piped redirect for soul music? Plus the image must be changed now to Vajpayee.
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Yes. Link fixed. Picture updated. | |
19 August 2018 | DYK | Caption | A veritable mouthful, it's supposed to be succinct and concise, so just "Clay model for statue of St John of Nepomuk" would be more than ample | Yes |
Matthias Rauchmiller | Why "Plague Monument" when it's patently called the "Plague Column"? | Yes | ||
Venom and Eternity | "attempted to play only its soundtrack to a darkened theatre?" well no, he had already played the "first section" over the projector before turning it off. And curiously the hostility toward the film had started way before the "soundtrack-only" phase of the presentation. | Yes | ||
Telfair Hodgson | " oldest continuously published literary quarterly" well the article just says "oldest continuously published literary journal" so suggest "quarterly" is replaced with "journal" to reflect the facts.
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Yes | ||
Joan Does Dynasty | An uncited paragraph (fails DYK rules) plus several citation errors in the references, really not suitable for promoting onto the main page right now. | Yes | ||
Shiv Pande | "form their first-ever joint cricket team" - this is noted (unref) in the lead and nowhere else, so how did this pass QPQ?
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Yes | ||
Benty Grange hanging bowl | " pair of yellow dolphins" the article clearly states that they are "dolphin-like animals", not simply "dolphins". | Yes | ||
Pteropus | According to the source, it's only used as currency in one island of the Solomons, namely Makira. | Yes | ||
Robert Duncan (pilot) | "that Ensign Robert Duncan was the " no mention in the article of "Ensign".... basics, really. | Yes | ||
OTD | Jacobite rising of 1745 | "Second Jacobite Rising." the article does not use this "proper" terminology at all. | Yes. Just using the article title instead. | |
Amos 'n' Andy | "Amos 'n' Andy made its debut." looks like that was the date it moved to the NBC Blue Network, but by no means was the debut. | Yes | ||
Cinema Rex fire | Needs an en-dash, plus the death toll has its own section so I'm not sure about "470 people" which isn't mentioned anywhere in the article...! | Yes. Dash fixed and OTD text on death toll changed to match the article. | ||
Crown Heights riot | Guyanese immigrant is a pipe to a redirect | Yes | ||
ITN | Aretha Franklin | "soul singer" is still piped to a redirect | Yes | |
20 August 2018 | DYK | Cusack Patrick Roney | Article has been moved as it should never had have the honorific prefix in the title, so blurb needs target redirect to be fixed Also "to the Dublin Great Industrial Exhibition of 1853" really doesn't need "Dublin" in there, it was the Great Industrial Exhibition of 1853 and happened to be held in Dublin, but doesn't add anything. Concision people!! |
Yes |
Priapulus caudatus | " that penis worms .." come on, that really needs a link (but I suppose pageviews for the DYK article are considered more important than allowing our readers to get to articles they actually would be interested in, right?) (P.S. the article stated the worms are found in the USSR, does anyone actually read this stuff before it's promoted??) | Yes | ||
SethBling | "an older yet even faster run by a third speedrunner" what a horrible hook, and actually it appears the "faster run" which was validated was actually on an emulator, which makes this hook (not just awful to read but) misleading.
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Yes | ||
Green Bay Packers Foundation | " valued at $2.5 billion" not at all, estimated by Forbes to be worth $2.5 billion in 2017 (although other sources are available but not used |
Yes | ||
Catherine-Nicole Lemaure | "imprisoned overnight for refusing to perform?" actually, it appears she was imprisoned for performing deliberately badly, not for refusing to perform. | Yes | ||
OTD | Day of Arafah | No reference for it being 20 August this year | Yes | |
Battle of Yarmouk | Rashidun is piped to a redirect. | Yes | ||
KLB Club | Bit of a mess, with eight [page needed] tags strewn across the article and a lot of the individuals in the table being unreferenced. | Yes. Item replaced with another. | ||
Yellowstone fires of 1988 | "United States' Yellowstone National Park ravaged more" RAVAGED? Are you kidding? That's what people do to each other during sex for the sake of everything holy. Destroyed was perfectly apt. BBC uses DESTROY too. | No | ||
21 August 2018 | DYK | Alfons Tracki | " the Gjakmarrja blood feuds" well according to the linked article, "Gjakmarrja" literally means "blood feud" so this sentence contains unnecessary redundancy. Concision people!
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Parenthesized. |
Brown-tail moth | A poor hook, "can be wind-blown", is that applicable to just about anything (e.g. my trampoline was blown across my garden by the wind a few months ago)? And the link between being "wind-blown" and causing "rashes" (in humans, I assume?) is missing here. All in all, very weak. My favourite sentence was this: "Toxins in the hairs remain potent for up to three years", far more catchy.
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Sure, better, thanks | ||
Scarface (1932 film) | " the poor performance of the 1932 film Scarface at the box office" well the article says it took $600k which is pretty damn good in 1932, and qualifies it by saying " Scarface had more of a financial success than some of Hughes's other films at the time" And saying it was "unavailable for nearly 50 years" goes against the article which says "except for occasional release prints "... | Yes | ||
OTD | Operation Tractable | Article uses World War II instead of Second World War | Yes | |
2015 Thalys train attack | " resulting in no deaths and four injuries" I don't think "no deaths and" is required at all | Yes | ||
TFA | Intimacy | " the UK Top 40." this redirects to the television show UK Top 40 (TV series) on CBBC. I would guess that what's really meant here is the UK Singles Chart.
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22 August 2018 | DYK | Gavin Buckley | "... that the mayor of Annapolis, Maryland thinks of himself as Australian?" needs a comma after Maryland per MOS. And I'm really not sure about this hook at all. He grew up in Australia, and one imagines that pretty much most people who grew up in Australia would think of themselves as being Australian. What's the point here? | Have added the comma. I think the fact an American citizen and mayor of a state capital still sees himself as an Aussie is not the most insipid hook DYK has seen recently. Granted it's a remarkably low bar. |
23 August | TFP | Belshazzar's Feast | Target article contains exposed and broken refs, and unverifiable claims (e.g. date of completion, story of God writing inscription etc)
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Yes, should be ok now. Have run through what I can of the references (don't own the books). The bit about it being stolen is, as best I can tell, nonsense. Fish+Karate 09:23, 22 August 2018 (UTC) |
Belshazzar's Feast - New issue | A footnote explains the mistranscription as being between a nun and a zayin. I'm alright with that, except a) the zayin looks more like a vav and b) there's another Wordpress (reliable?) source cited in the article that says the mistranscription is between a final mem and a samech, which is such a subtle difference I didn't even notice it. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 14:47, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
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Yes. No action for now. | ||
DYK | Nardouw pincushion | "Nardouw pincushion" (as used in the hook) is mentioned but once in the article, and not inline referenced. A standard problem with these DYKs I'm afraid. | Yes | |
Aṅgulimāla | Blurb is potentially confusing, as it could easily be interpreted as Buddha being chased by two individuals. Perhaps rephrase it -> "chased by Aṅgulimāla, the brigand and serial killer, the Buddha ..." | Yes (although I changed it to "a brigand..." rather than "the brigand...") | ||
Red W Interactiva | "operated for only 101 days" well it's 102 if it operated on the last day in the date range. And that is a problem with even simple synthesis of facts here. | Yes | ||
Evelyn Wang | The sentence in the article containing this hook is referenced by an article which doesn't mention Wang as the co-designer. It mentions just Hyunho Kim as the sole developer. Wang took the photo... | Yes. Changed the ref. | ||
OTD | Coldstream Guards | " in the Regular Army in " I would link it, very simply, to British Army. But, in any case, the reference says it was formed on 13 August, not 23 August.... |
Yes. Moved to 13 August. | |
Cry of Pugad Lawin | Seems odd to feature something in OTD when there's a whole section dedicated to the uncertainty over the date the event actually took place.
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Yes | ||
R38-class airship | "over the city of Hull." no need for "the city of" and perhaps worthwhile including the result of the crash, ie. killing 44 of the 49 people onboard. | Yes | ||
Battle of Kursk | Prose in article uses Second World War. | Yes | ||
Ali al-Ridha | Maybe it's vandalism but there's some funky discrepancies going on between the birth/death dates in the infobox and the main article here...
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Yes. Chopped it. Sources weren't really helping me to get to a definitive answer either. | ||
24 August 2018 | DYK | Denny Way | Hook says a "terminus" while article simply notes a "station", why just make things up that aren't even mentioned in the article? | Yes |
Pseudocalanus newmani | Besides being one of the most intractable hooks I've ever read, we simply shouldn't be using complex and niche terminology like "diatom" without linking it appropriately. And then once you've done that, re-read the hook and realise "WTF?" Note also the hook states "which are toxic to its young" whereas the article notes " can be toxic to its young in large quantities"... |
Yes | ||
Peter Copeman | The man has been dead barely a month, the image used doesn't qualify under fair use as it's clear that insufficient effort has been put into obtaining a free-to-use image. | Removed | ||
OTD | Sack of Rome (410) | actually "almost" 800 years | Changed to "approximately" as there are three different dates given in the other article (393, 390 and 387BC) | |
Siege of Cádiz | "Nicolas Jean de Dieu Soult" should be "Jean-de-Dieu Soult" | Yes. | ||
Goodison Park | It's a nice image but it's of Goodison Park in 2006, rather than Goodison Park in 1892 (which looked quite different....!!) | Yes. | ||
Aktion T4 | " ordered the official termination" the article says he ordered a suspension of the "program". It's also worth noting how many victims there were, i.e. at least 275,000 killed. | Changed to "suspension". The number of deaths is - obviously - very vague, though - best way to write this? | ||
Hurricane Andrew | Three piped redirects in the blurb (landfall, South Florida and Category 5) Also, the blurb has " third most powerful " but the article lists it as "intensity" rather than power ("Intensity is measured solely by central pressure") so perhaps use the terminology within the article itself. |
No. | ||
25 August 2018 | TFP | Mexican peso | The reverse image doesn't even appear in the target article, and none of the blurb is verifiable in the target article either.
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Yes. |
DYK | Averroes' theory of the unity of the intellect | Not sure why the caption is centred, it's always just left as left-aligned, regardless of its length (like all other captions on the main page). And since it's a painting, we normally have the artist and year in there. Oh, and no need for "specifically" in the hook, concision people!! |
Yes | |
William Preucil | Article contains bare URLs which is contrary to DYK rule D3 Also, use of "major" in the hook is weaselish and not verifiable. |
Yes | ||
Spire (Seattle building) | "condo tower" this isn't exactly encyclopaedic in tone, it's a "condominium" after all, per the multiple uses in the article. Just because it's DYK, we don't have to resort to slang. Also, "Vanke's interest in the project was spurred " (to me) does not equate to "funding was secured". But DYK hooks just seem to make stuff up these days.
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Yes | ||
OTD | Matthew Webb | "completing the journey in 21 hours and 45 minutes." well the source says he left just "seconds" before 1 and made Calais at 10.40, so that's 21 hrs 40 mins. | Yes | |
26 August 2018 | TFP | Madame Moitessier | Once again, several claims in the blurb aren't verifiable using reliable sources in the target article. Recurring theme.
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Yes |
DYK | Margot Fonteyn | "danced for 44 years " well, she started dancing at the age of four apparently, and didn't officially retire until she was 61, so she danced for 57 years. Once again, the problem with even simple synthesis (I'm not sure how this meets the DYK rules of the hook being explicitly mentioned and referenced inline, unless I'm missing it). | Yes | |
Murder of the family of Robert Einstein | " soldiers in World War II?" no mention in the article prose at all of World War II curiously. | Yes | ||
Ina Hartwig | "responsible for literary criticism" contravenes DYK rules (like the above two) because the article says clearly "responsible for literature" not "literary criticism"... These really are basic tenets of the DYK process being overlooked time and again.
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Yes | ||
2019 United States FIBA Basketball World Cup team | "after FIBA changes" shouldn't this be "rule changes" or something? Or did FIBA itself actually change....?? And the limitation only appears to be during qualification when it overlaps with the NBA season, after which the team will be composed of regular NBA players... | Yes | ||
Magdalena Mouján | "censored by the Spanish government" article says more accurately "was blocked by the Franco regime"
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Yes | ||
Summer Theatre of Tirana | "in which more than 400 artists participated" article says clearly "for a total number of 400 artists participating in the event", not "more than 400"... | Yes | ||
Operation Mosaic | " that the second test in the Operation Mosaic series under the command of Hugh Martell was the largest nuclear device" reduces to -> " that the second test ... was the largest nuclear device" which is poor writing. The test wasn't the largest nuclear device, it utilised or witnessed or saw or contained the largest nuclear device. | Yes (just about) | ||
OTD | Raksha Bandhan | No verifiable reference for today | Yes - sourced. | |
Heroes' Day (Namibia) | No verifiable reference for this, the article says "In commemoration of the day, 26 August is a public holiday in Namibia. It is recognized by the United Nations as Namibia Day[6] but Namibians refer to it as Heroes' Day." but the first and last part of this isn't cited. Plus [6] is dead. | Yes - sourced (in the lead). | ||
Juan José Castelli | I see no sign of 26 August cited here | Yes. Nor me, and the source isn't accessible. Swapped. | ||
International recognition of Abkhazia and South Ossetia | "More than a week after a ceasefire was reached in the Russo-Georgian War,..." not seeing this clearly expressed in the target article | Yes. Looks like the ceasefire was 12 August, which would make it two weeks. Changed to just "After..." | ||
27 August 2018 | TFP | Abbey of Saint-Michel-de-Cuxa | The usual mess of unreferenced/inaccurate claims in the blurb
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DYK | El Tatio | "highest in the world" - according to the article it's highest "together with Sol de Mañana", so it's somewhat misleading to omit that | Yes | |
Carol Rasco | "took over Arkansas's daily business?" since this is euphemistic and based on a quote, I suggest "daily business" be placed in quote marks. | Yes | ||
Aap Kaa Hak | Serial comma has been inserted into the hook but isn't used by this BritEng article. Consistency. | Yes | ||
Christoph Bernhard Verspoell | Two unreferenced paras, contrary to DYK rules (spec. D2)
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Yes | ||
Gordon W. McKay | "that in 1960, Gordon W. McKay was chosen by Bend, Oregon, as its Senior Citizen of the Year?" this is perhaps the most banal hook ever. A non-notable award from a barely notable community to a barely notable individual. Is this really the best that can be done? An overt and brash refusal to adhere to one of DYK's principles: "interesting to a broad audience". | Yes | ||
Mormon studies | "they are being watched?" who, the scholars or the excommunicated historians?
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Yes | ||
OTD | Public holidays in the Philippines | Typically poor article of its type, tagged, and unverifiable. | Changed the target, this article isn't a lot better but at least it has sources. | |
Battle of Grand Port | It's worth contextualising that this battle between French and British forces was actually in Mauritius. | Done. Ealdgyth - Talk 12:49, 26 August 2018 (UTC) | ||
Kellogg–Briand Pact | "Over sixty nations signed the Kellogg–Briand Pact" well, according to the article, on this day " It was signed by Germany, France, and the United States on 27 August 1928, and by most other states soon after" so that looks like it was signed by "three" nations OTD. | Went with "The first three nations signed the Kellogg–Briand Pact, renouncing war as an instrument of national policy. Eventually over sixty nations would subscribe to the treaty." Ealdgyth - Talk 12:49, 26 August 2018 (UTC) | ||
Mars | "The planet Mars made..." no need for "The planet", and the rest of the sentence needs a little bit of work, perhaps "passing within 55.7 million km" or something, just to avoid the odd colon-ed clause and excruciating and completely unnecessary accuracy applied. | Done, although I cheated and used a convert template Ealdgyth - Talk 12:49, 26 August 2018 (UTC) | ||
Shi Jianqiao | Films & TV series section is unreferenced and tagged, possibly could be completely deleted? | Yes. Deleted it. | ||
28 August 2018 | DYK | Takuyo-Daisan | Not sure if anyone read this, but it starts with "It rises to a depth of 1,409 metres (4,623 ft)" (rises to a depth?) and the infobox right next to it says "Summit depth 1,501 m (4,925 ft)". I know QPQ pays no attention to the rest of the article, but this is the opening sentence of the lead so presumably someone read it, right? | Yes, reworded article, infobox had already been fixed. |
Andrew Rowsey | DOB, POB, height, and weight mentioned, but not cited. | No | ||
Luang Por Dhammajayo | "launched an anti-smoking campaign" actually, it was an anti-smoking and anti-drinking campaign, combined. Per the article. | Yes | ||
Migrant Architects of the NHS | "tells the story of how doctors" not really a "story" is it, more "recounts how" | Yes | ||
OTD | Slavery Abolition Act 1833 | "slavery" is piped to a redirect | Yes | |
Goudi coup | 28 August is mentioned once only, in the lead, and not referenced | Yes, reference added. | ||
Emmett Till | " American Civil Rights Movement" is piped to a redirect | Yes | ||
29 August 2018 | OTD | Shays' Rebellion | The infobox in this Good Article states that it started on 31 August | Yes. The 31st is not mentioned anywhere in the article, and the 29th is referenced. |
Treaty of Nanking | Blurb is bloated and has too many run-on clauses. Also, the article calls it a "peace treaty" which would later be called an "unequal treaty", so perhaps the blurb should be phrased in that sense too.
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Yes, reworded by Howcheng | ||
RDS-1 | Why in italics? The target article doesn't use italics. | Yes | ||
Libero Grassi | "extortion" is piped to a redirect. | Yes | ||
Ingrid Bergman | She also died on 29 August. | Yes | ||
DYK | NO FAULT FOUND! | Could be a first? | No need! | |
30 August 2018 | DYK | St. Peter's Church, Malmö | Hook says " largest town church in Denmark?" but the article is very cautious and clear and includes the caveat "(excluding cathedrals)" because presumably some towns had cathedrals as their "town churches". Oh, and the note about it being part of Denmark is unreferenced. Oh, and the reference at the end of the hook sentence needs a page number/range because we shouldn't be hunting through large PDFs to verify claims. QPQ!
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Doug Gurr | Promoted with a bare URL, DYK rule D3 ignored, QPQ fail
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ref formatted GhostOrchid35 (talk) 08:59, 29 August 2018 (UTC) | ||
Friends | "bandleader"? Not in the article, instead it uses the correct terms "producer and principal songwriter". And in any case, it was Wild Honey (which preceded Friends) which saw Wilson reduce his involvement (to whit: Wild Honey saw reduced involvement from the group's producer and principal songwriter, Brian Wilson.), so this hook is double duff.
Please correct to:
Factual, sourced in the article, and closer to how I originally wrote the hook before inaccuracies were introduced.--Ilovetopaint (talk) 11:29, 30 August 2018 (UTC) |
Yes | ||
Bob Nadin | "referred to as the "pope of the rules"," well, actually Bob made this claim himself (a primary source no less). We don't usually use primary sources, especially when they're made by individuals making claims about themselves.
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Yes, in that it's now accurate ("said he was referred to..."). There's nothing in the DYK rules about primary claims not being part of a hook. Fish+Karate 13:51, 30 August 2018 (UTC) | ||
Gaqo Çako | "a light music song festival" not mentioned in the article. Fails DYK rules. QPQ! | Yes | ||
LeBron James Jr. | "before he was 11?" fundamentally, the issue is, once again, a discrepancy between article and hook: the article just says "In June 2016, ESPN reported that he held offers to play college basketball for Kentucky and Duke.[18]", (no mention of "before he was 11" and the cite says he had "offers" when 10 but not necessarily those from Duke/Kentucky, those are referred to separately in the article.
Wow! Anyone else see a pattern here? DYKs should not be messed with after they've already been approved... --Ilovetopaint (talk) 11:39, 30 August 2018 (UTC) |
Yes | ||
OTD | Constitution of Kazakhstan | Is it just me, or is the target article missing 94 articles? I could tag the article as {{Missing information}} I suppose...? Or am I missing something? | Yes, removed. | |
Red Terror | Really no need to link "repression". While we're at it, "and for the attempted assassination (30 August 1918) of Lenin by Fanni Kaplan. " has no reference, so how do we verify it happened on that day? It seems like a bit of a stretch to link this article as an OTD for that reason to be honest... |
Yes, replaced with Vlieter Incident. | ||
2014 Lesotho political crisis | "had launched" is not needed in the target, although a section link could be used in the pipe (to the Coup d'état section). Also worth noting that the target doesn't italicise coup d'etat either.... | Yes, but I don't like to make the bold link go to directly to a section. —howcheng {chat} 06:53, 30 August 2018 (UTC) | ||
Agoston Haraszthy | Two cites by his date of birth, but both link to lovely ye olde worlde scans of maps. How odd. Where can I verify the DOB? | Not required | ||
ITN | Harbin hotel fire | Final numbers are in, 20 dead, 23 injured, blurb needs updating accordingly | Yes | |
31 August 2018 | DYK | Aya Hirano | "played her first role as a voice actress at the age of 14?" honestly, how is that interesting to anyone, let alone a "broad audience"? Of course there are child voice actors and actresses just like there are child actors and actresses. Once again, we need to comply with the fundamental DYK tenets or remove them altogether.
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Bulgarian cosmonaut program | "spaceship" is not mentioned in the target article or the Soyuz 33 article. We ought to remain encyclopedic when describing these vehicles, and not resort to child-like terminology. | Yes | ||
Anastasia Soare | " that Anastasia Soare is the "Eyebrow Queen"?" well, Kim Kardashian has called her the "eyebrow queen" according to the one and only source which uses this term. | Yes, second source added. | ||
Sutopo Purwo Nugroho | "continued to act as spokesman" this reads as though he stopped doing it or died. Neither appear to be true. | Yes | ||
Facebook, Apple, Amazon, Netflix and Google | "America"? Shouldn't this be "the United States"? Plus the article is still marked as a stub, which fails DYK rule D11. QPQ! | Yes | ||
OTD | Jack the Ripper | " on the ground in front of a gated stable entrance" none of that detail is in the target article, and is probably unnecessary in any case. | removed Ealdgyth - Talk 11:11, 30 August 2018 (UTC) | |
Battle of Loznica (1941) | We normally precede these battles by the overall conflict, i.e. "World War II: "... | Added Ealdgyth - Talk 11:11, 30 August 2018 (UTC) | ||
Van Morrison | Where is the DoB referenced? | Yes, reference added. | ||
TFP | Anartia jatrophae | "protect an area approximately 15 m (50 ft) in diameter from other insects" permanently dead source means this is unverifiable. | Yes, alternate source found | |
ITN | Harbin hotel fire | Final numbers are in, 20 dead, 23 injured, blurb needs updating accordingly | Updated |