Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2020–2022 Pakistani political crises

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. It has been a month, and I don't see a consensus. Before re-nomination in the future, I would suggest whether editorial suggestions including a rename and/or merger might be handled editorially. Star Mississippi 02:26, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

2020–2022 Pakistani political crises[edit]

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WP:NOR. This article cites no sources that describe how these various topics or crises are connected to one another, and the article does not make that clear either. It is also internally inconsistent: The lead has the crises start in 2022, whereas the title has them start in 2020. Sandstein 14:55, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. Sandstein 14:55, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions. Sandstein 14:55, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Also of note: the article was created by a now-blocked sock, MasterOfMetaverse, although it has since been edited by others. Sandstein 14:57, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete because it was created by a sock puppet. I started the original political crises article, 2022 vote of no confidence in the Imran Khan ministry, which was renamed & copy/pasted without discussion. Elmisnter! (talk) 15:27, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep but change the scope to only 2022, so that all the recent political events are captured, especially those in Punjab province. Mar4d (talk) 16:16, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Agree completely Gandalf1902 (talk) 23:38, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and rename per Mar4d. --Bedivere (talk) 03:01, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and rename. Hivedrops (talk) 16:43, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
All of these "keep" opinions don't address the reason for deletion, namely, that it is original research to group these topics together, and that not even the article makes clear why they are grouped together. Sandstein 20:23, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – The mentioned articles are surely connected to each other. The article was created as 2022 Pakistani political crises, @Panam2014 moved it to 2020–2022 Pakistani political crises, maybe just to add the PDM Protest - but it must be stated in the background of the article. And I'm proposing move to its previous name. Ainty Painty (talk) 09:15, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Ainty Painty, how are these articles connected to each other? Are there reliable sources that say so? Sandstein 15:53, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Agree with nominee that it is not sourced or clear how these events are connected or should be considered one crisis. If narrowed down to 2022 Pakistani political crisis, this would be a content fork from 2022 Pakistani constitutional crisis and No-confidence motion in Imran Khan. Arcahaeoindris (talk) 14:48, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and rename Per Mar4d and Ainty Painty. 103.141.159.74 (talk) 19:17, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and rename as per Ainty Painty User4edits (talk) 22:09, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment if we are moving, can we move the original article here to its actual name and then copy paste the contents with proper edit summary. Same sock puppet, who created this article, copy blanked the original article of the same name, I don't know why. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elminster Aumar (talk • contribs) 06:28, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Ainty Painty and Mar4d. Maybe the vote of no confidence part can be subsumed by this article given that it is a part of the entire crises. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 12:30, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or merge with "2022 Pakistani constitutional crisis". WP:Duplicate article. --Fontaine347 (talk) 15:12, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, DMySon (talk) 06:16, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment – Other incidents were also included, as the country is still going through a political crisis. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ainty Painty (talk • contribs) 19 April 2022 07:05 (UTC)
Delete Those !voting keep have not demonstrated that the content of the article is anything other than a series of events over a certain time period. There's not a single source which *both* groups these events (a) together and (b) all as crises; reliable sources doing that is what is required to demonstrate notability. The implicit definition here renders the word crisis meaningless. The article is WP:SYNTH. Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 07:45, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Agree. Several of these “crises” are just votes of no confidence which are normal enough events in a parliamentary democracy. The first of the two “oath crises” doesn’t appear to be a crisis at all. Any significant crisis in this list already has its own page, and there is little connection between them except a coincidence of timing. Nwhyte (talk) 04:52, 28 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Political history of Pakistan. "Crisis" is editorializing. And there is no need for a stand-alone article. User:力 (powera, π, ν) 22:43, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to 2022 Pakistani constitutional crisis per @Fontaine347 casualdejekyll 16:58, 27 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to either 2022 Pakistani constitutional crisis or Political history of Pakistan per above Merge !votes. Cheers! Fake scientist 8000 (💬) 10:40, 28 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 2601:647:5800:1A1F:C54D:43E:AA67:CA78 (talk) 20:30, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Material inadequately sourced is not dumped elsewhere but deleted. Still, the subject is trivially notable and some material is properly sourced, but, quoting from WP:OVERLAP, there are two or more pages on related subjects that have a large overlap and might be redundant. Therefore, a Merge in a distributional manner across the articles 2022 Pakistani constitutional crisis and Political history of Pakistan is suggested of the material that can be salvaged in terms of sourcing. Wikipedia is not a dictionary; there does not need to be a separate entry for every concept. -The Gnome (talk) 07:55, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Procedural, as last relist doesn't appear to have been performed correctly.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Joe (talk) 09:59, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete – Not a single source cites anything like "2020-22 political crises". If political events happening in 2020-22 are somehow related, then so is whole political history of Pakistan related. And if we rename it to "2022 Pakistani political crisis" what value it'll bring to this platform, other than being duplicate of 2022 Pakistani constitutional crisis (which was once called "2022 Pakistani political crisis" before this move)? Radioactive (talk) 14:53, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.