Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Latham Circle

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 01:53, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Latham Circle[edit]

This is a non-notable traffic circle in a suburb of Albany, NY. The article was created well over a year ago, and nobody has made any progress on it. I think that this could be verifiable (it's not that hard to pull up old newspaper articles and town plans on it), but that still leads to the question of notability. Nothing is really significant about this roundabout. --Seascic ^T/_C 22:36, 4 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The article title was created a year ago BUT it was a redirect to Latham Circle Mall. It has only been a regular article of its own for about a month at most. I changed it from the redirect but have been busy working on Port of Albany-Rensselaer getting it passed through GA review. As most know that is time consuming and I have not had time to research and expand Latham Circle. Please give it time. A check of Latham Circle's history would have shown that it was a redirect for most of its existence...does anyone ever do research before they do these things?!Camelbinky (talk) 22:43, 4 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I took time out to quickly expand a bit the article, added two citations, and have found that the article is wikilinked from three other articles- US Route 9 in New York, Latham, New York, and NY Route 2. I hope that very very soon we can do-away with this deletion talk. Oh, and for the record- it is not a roundabout, it is a traffic circle, there is a difference and perhaps the fact that its a traffic circle that has been modified to have roundabout characteristics should make it notable, not to mention traffic circles tend to be rare outside of New England, and the Latham Circle has Texas U-turns which are extremely rare outside of the Southern United States. The circle is extremely well known in the Capital District, an area of over 1 million people.Camelbinky (talk) 00:45, 5 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. -- Raven1977 (talk) 01:10, 5 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions. -- Raven1977 (talk) 01:11, 5 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Weak merge into Latham, New York. While there it is verifiable and there seems to be regional notability about this traffic circle (there seems to even be a soccer team named after it), it doesn't seem to have enough information to have a standalone article. I therefore propose that the article redirect to the hamlet article and have its own section there. If at some point, there's enough information about the article after a time to split, then so be it. I doubt that'll happen anytime soon, so merge looks like the best option here. I say "weak" because I'm willing to give it a "keep" as a second choice. Since it has won awards and has been featured, it's also notable in the traffic engineering community, as well as the New York community. --Triadian (talk) 02:01, 5 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Weak merge/keep Agree with the above comment. Slightly notable interchange and a landmark of the Latham hamlet. PaleAqua (talk) 07:08, 5 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep As the article currently exists, there are enough reliable and verifiable sources about the circle to merit retention. Alansohn (talk) 14:44, 7 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Camelbinky. While notability may seem minimal currently, it is a notable location in the greater Capital District of New York. I'm currently on vacation and have limited access to internet, but will work on this when I am back, including adding more references, content, and hopefully an infobox. Note that I won't be back from vacation until after the 10th. I'd like to see if we can suspend the AfD until I have some time on it? THanks, and I hope to work on this when I'm home! ~ ωαdεstεr16_«talk^stalk» 15:16, 7 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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