Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mindful Education

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎. (non-admin closure) Actualcpscm^{scrutinize, talk} 20:46, 25 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Mindful Education[edit]

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I am nominating this article for deletion per WP:BRV, especially in regards to off-wiki information between the creator of the article and Steven Universe, which I won't describe here but suffice to say could be considered a violation of WP:G5. Kuchi Kopi (talk) 16:24, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 16:33, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep. As I said in my comment on the AfD for The Answer (Steven Universe) and the AfD for Cry for Help (Steven Universe), the reasoning for this deletion is not only absurd, but so broad that it makes little sense, especially since you are nominating, but claiming it is in regards to off-wiki information, but WON'T even describe what it is! Please withdraw this incorrect AfD. This episode IS notable and the fact you nominated this for an AfD instead of beginning a discussion on the talk page is an indication that this discussion is not productive to anyone. Historyday01 (talk) 16:47, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep BRV only applies to articles that were created in violation of a ban. It does not apply to editors who created an article, in good faith, and were later banned. Unless you're accusing Pokelova (the now banned and globally locked article creator) of acting as a proxy or meatpuppet of another banned user, I can't see how BRV or the spirit of G5 applies here. Sideswipe9th (talk) 16:54, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. I don't know the circumstances of Pokelova being banned, but I'd also argue that the article is notable enough, and the spirit of G5 can't apply here either. Historyday01 (talk) 17:07, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
What I know of the circumstances surrounding the block, at least up to the point of the Foundation GBAN, there isn't a valid application of BRV or the spirit of G5 to be made here. The only circumstance I can think of would be if Pokelova was acting as a proxy or meatpuppet for another blocked/banned editor, but if the evidence for that is all off-wiki based, that's something only ArbCom can handle per other policy. Sideswipe9th (talk) 17:48, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Makes sense. Additionally, considering that Pokelova has a global ban and these articles were created before the ban, I don't believe that BRV can apply here, nor can the spirit of G5, as you point out. Historyday01 (talk) 18:37, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. The article is on a notable topic and no relevant reason for deleting it has been mentioned. AJD (talk) 20:37, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to List of Steven Universe episodes. Perhaps I need to stop jumping into low quality nominations to identify "the actual issues", since they're kind of doomed from the start, but this is not sufficiently notable for a stand-alone article (ouch, my afdstats :) ). We already summarize it over in the list, and all the remains are obscure fan blogs and a couple TV/entertainment blogs that recap/review basically everything. I suppose if absolutely every episode of a popular TV show is notable, so is this, but I don't see anything exceptional here. This is the purpose of the episode lists -- to summarize them in one place, without sprawling out to individual articles. WP:NOPAGE. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 14:45, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Is it so unbelievable that "every episode of a popular TV show is notable"? Wikipedia already has individual episode articles for every episode of Star Trek: Voyager, Game of Thrones, and The X-Files, and all but six episodes of Succession, to pick a handful of examples. If an episode is discussed in detail in multiple independent mainstream sources, doesn't that meet the notability criteria? AJD (talk) 21:12, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.