Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Take My Wife (1979 TV series)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Consensus is that a well-sourced article could be written on this TV show, even though the article does not currently have a collection of suitable sources. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 11:01, 7 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Take My Wife (1979 TV series)[edit]

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With no coverage in reliable sources, this TV series fails WP:TVSERIES. The article was deleted via WP:PROD, but then undeleted later. GeoffreyT2000 ^{(talk, contribs)} 01:08, 22 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 02:17, 22 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 02:17, 22 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Not disputing sourcing could be improved, but I quote WP:BCASTOUTCOMES, which I realise is not binding but carries some weight: "Television series broadcast nationally by a major network or produced by a major studio are usually kept as they are considered notable." PatGallacher (talk) 01:18, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
Keep. Prime time sitcom from the days when there were only 3 channels in the UK. Coverage from the late 1970s will exist somewhere. There are some basic details here. --Michig (talk) 13:00, 23 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Weak delete The IMDB citation confirms the series was broadcast on Granada, and a source in Google Books says the pilot aired on ATV, so it seems to meet the standard of a national network series. Google Books has a few other passing references to the series, all saying how terrible it was. The Guardian, which was also based in Manchester, has one non-listing article. TV Times is not a secondary source at this point. I don't think it will ever get RSs. Matt's talk 20:47, 25 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Reply If there are a few sources saying how bad it was then that is actually evidence for notability. PatGallacher (talk) 16:52, 26 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  - Quite right, it is, but the key word in that sentence is "passing". It wasn't not substantial coverage. BTW, going back to check this point made me realize that there's another 70s British TV sitcom called Now Take My Wife. Apparently it was just as bad. Matt's talk 17:13, 26 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    - I remember "Now Take My Wife", didn't think it was all that bad, although it was quite a while ago and I was quite young at the time. PatGallacher (talk) 00:38, 27 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The Guardian had in fact (despite what some citations of it on here say or have said) closed its Manchester offices by this point and was based pretty much wholly in London. RobinCarmody (talk) 22:25, 25 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies, that's right. August 1976 according to one journalist's memoir. Though you'd never know it from walking down Deansgate, where there was a prominent Guardian sign on the commercial offices. Matt's talk 09:20, 26 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The main TV listings in the Guardian's digital archive change from Granada to Thames/LWT on Friday 1st October 1976, iirc, which rather helps to date it. In the end I think it was a very sudden, almost overnight decision when the paper was sailing very close to the financial wind. RobinCarmody (talk) 23:45, 26 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 02:48, 30 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comment – Someone needs to add a source to this, or it should be deleted: article is currently entirely unsourced (IMDb as an 'EL' does not count). If any of the sources people are talking about earlier in this discussion are confirmed to exist, they need to be added to the article, pronto. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 19:39, 30 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- I did add an additional source a few days ago. PatGallacher (talk) 22:19, 30 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  - I meant a WP:RS inline source. If you mean the comedy guide one, that's an External link – I think we need more than that for this... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 23:58, 30 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.