Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Warriors (gang)
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. ItsZippy (talk • contributions) 20:28, 17 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The Warriors (gang)[edit]
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Article previously deleted via PROD in 2009, and recent PROD was declined. The article is entirely written "in-universe", spans several works of fiction in the franchise which already have articles, and is largely a plot summary of those articles. MSJapan (talk) 06:45, 8 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete This article is just a bunch of in-universe plot summaries that already have better articles written about them at The Warriors (film) and List of The Warriors characters. There's nothing really here worth saving that isn't already covered elsewhere. Rorshacma (talk) 17:12, 8 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as non-notable per WP:NOTINHERITED. There appears to be a lot of WP:SYNTHESIS from the different works. It's really hard to google these terms, but I don't see any coverage specific to the gang discussed outside the main work. I don't think this warranted a WP:SPLIT, as much of the content is WP:GAMECRUFT unsuitable for the main articles either, so there is not much that can be merged, in fact, it seems everything is already more or less covered. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 18:43, 8 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - transfer any information worth keeping into the articles on The Warriors (film) and List of The Warriors characters. Blueboar (talk) 12:45, 9 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. — Frankie (talk) 13:54, 9 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game-related deletion discussions. (G·N·B·S·RS·Talk) • Gene93k (talk) 15:45, 9 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:45, 9 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as previously deleted for failing the WP:GNG, due to a lack of references to verify notability as a new topic separate from the movie itself. Shooterwalker (talk) 22:48, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- keep -- This is a notable topic. This topic is the subject of scholarly work.
- Note -- no one has made any attempt whatsoever to voice concerns on the talk page. Geo Swan (talk) 12:58, 15 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Chris J. Przemieniecki (2005). "Gang Behavior and Movies: Do Hollywood Gang Films Influence Violent Gang Behavior?" (PDF). Journal of Gang Research.
It should be noted that while many gang films have been produced only a few have reached the notoriety and publicity of such films as The Warriors (1979), Colors (1988), Boyz N the Hood (1991), and New Jack City (1991) have received. ...
- PA Roth (1990). "The Virtue of Violence: Dimensions of Development in Walter Hill's The Warriors". Journal of Popular Culture.
The movie follows nine members of a gang-the Warriors-as they travel from Coney Island to the Bronx to attend a grand meeting of NYC youth gangs.
- "View at your Own Risk: Gang Movies and Spectator Violence".
... via his father in a wrongful death action, and Jocelyn Vargas, along with her mother, brought lawsuits against the par- ties they believed should be held responsible for injuries caused by third parties who had viewed the gang-related motion pictures The Warriors and Boulevard ...
- "The Psychohistory of Warfare: The Co-Evolution of Culture, Psyche and Enemy" (PDF). California Institute of Integral Studies.
- "Understanding the Members of Your Health Care "Gang": Seekers and Cruisers". The Health Care Manager. 2002.
The bad side of gangs was depicted in the film The Warriors. ...
- F Crewdson (1986). "A psychoanalytic teaching exercise". Journal of the American Academy of Psychoanalysis.
... If I were a guy I would be macho, be self-reliant … I would punch them out! 2. I wish in my life I weren't so afraid—as I usually am. I wasn't afraid anymore [watching the movie]. I was rooting for the Warriors gang.
- Vernon Young (1979). "Film Chronicle: Trash and Poetry". The Hudson Review.
... Hill's antagonists are a lordly, if illiterate, gang of juvenile delinquents, "The Warriors," and the film, shortly summarized, enacts their efforts, during one night, simply to "get home," safely, to Coney Island from the Bronx, by way of the subway
- James A. Clapp (2007). "Growing Up Urban: The City, the Cinema, and American Youth". The Journal of Popular Culture.
... Urban turf also plays a principal role in The Warriors (1979). At an assembly in upper Manhattan of the city's Warriors, a gang from a beachside area of Brooklyn, end up being falsely accused of assassinating a charismatic who has called an assembly of all the gangs in New ...
- ES Shneidman. "Current Perspectives" (PDF).
... In March 1979, a gang film called The Warriors was released by Paramount with the following ad: "These are the Armies of the Night. They are 100,000 strong. They outnumber the cops five to one. They could run New York City. ...
- Aubrey Meredith Anable (2009). "Digital Decay: The Urban Interface in New Visual Culture, 1968-2008". University of Rochester.
- Chris J. Przemieniecki (2005). "Gang Behavior and Movies: Do Hollywood Gang Films Influence Violent Gang Behavior?" (PDF). Journal of Gang Research.
- RG Boehmer (1990). "Marketing and the law". Journal of the Academy of Marketing Science.
..."The Warriors" depicts juvenile gang violence. Advertisements targeted at a high school market portrayed menacing youths wielding baseball bats. After a showing in California, two youths were killed near theaters exhibiting the film. ...
- RH Saunders (1993). "Kickin'Some Knowledge: Rap and the Construction of Identity in the African-American Ghetto". University of Arizona.
... In Walter Hill's movie The Warriors, a small band of street hoods is accused of assassinating the leader of New York's most powerful gang during a citywide meeting somewhere uptown. The ifim follows this gang, the Warriors, as it tries to return to its home base in Brooklyn. ...
- Comment re: the above - these sources are about the film, which has its own separate article. This article is not about the film, but rather a fictional history of the gang across the franchise. Therefore these sources are not appropriate for this article. MSJapan (talk) 14:17, 15 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Ditto above; a typical case of notability not being inherited, in this case -- the film (and others) are notable, but the gang itself is not, as it is not discussed on its own (at least we can't seem to find any sources). — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 14:27, 15 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- RG Boehmer (1990). "Marketing and the law". Journal of the Academy of Marketing Science.
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