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December 23[edit]

San Antonio[edit]

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The result of the debate was rename all. the wub "?!" 17:20, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in San Antonio to Category:Buildings and structures in San Antonio, Texas

Category:Companies based in San Antonio to Category:Companies based in San Antonio, Texas

Category:Culture of San Antonio to Category:Culture of San Antonio, Texas

Category:Education in San Antonio to Category:Education in San Antonio, Texas

Category:Geography of San Antonio to Category:Geography of San Antonio, Texas

Category:Healthcare in San Antonio to Category:Healthcare in San Antonio, Texas

Category:Neighborhoods of San Antonio to Category:Neighborhoods of San Antonio, Texas

Category:Shopping malls in San Antonio to Category:Shopping malls in San Antonio, Texas

Category:History of San Antonio to Category:History of San Antonio, Texas

Category:Military in San Antonio to Category:Military in San Antonio, Texas

Category:Sports in San Antonio to Category:Sports in San Antonio, Texas

Category:Transportation in San Antonio to Category:Transportation in San Antonio, Texas

Category:Visitor attractions in San Antonio to Category:Visitor attractions in San Antonio, Texas

Nominator's rationale: Rename. Matches name of parent category Category:San Antonio, Texas and main article San Antonio, Texas. Vegaswikian (talk) 21:35, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Rename per nom for consistency. Snocrates 03:58, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Film directors from Bosnia and Herzegovina[edit]

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The result of the debate was rename. Kbdank71 15:49, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:Film directors from Bosnia and Herzegovina to Category:Bosnian and Herzegovinian film directors

Nominator's rationale: To match naming convention of other countries in the parent category Category:Film directors by nationality. Lugnuts (talk) 21:04, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Radio stations in Mobile[edit]

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The result of the debate was rename. the wub "?!" 17:19, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:Radio stations in Mobile to Category:Radio stations in Mobile, Alabama

Nominator's rationale: To match parent category name and sibling categories Category:Radio stations in Huntsville, Alabama and Category:Radio stations in Birmingham, Alabama. -- Dravecky (talk) 20:48, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Rename to match main category Category:Mobile, Alabama and main article Mobile, Alabama. Snocrates 21:13, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support rename to Category:Radio stations in Mobile, Alabama. JPG-GR (talk) 02:45, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Rename to match main category. Altairisfar^talk 15:31, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Media in San Antonio[edit]

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The result of the debate was rename. the wub "?!" 17:18, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:Media in San Antonio to Category:Media in San Antonio, Texas

Nominator's rationale: Rename. To match parent category name. Vegaswikian (talk) 20:26, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Rename per nom and to match main article San Antonio, Texas. Snocrates 21:15, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Scandals ending in -gate[edit]

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The result of the debate was delete. the wub "?!" 17:18, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Association by name. Having an article name that ends in gate is not a defining characteristic. Vegaswikian (talk) 20:09, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - overcategorization by commonality of name. List article already exists. Otto4711 (talk) 20:58, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom, poetry technique misused by the media. Pavel Vozenilek (talk) 10:58, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Rinkworks[edit]

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The result of the debate was delete. the wub "?!" 17:17, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Delete as unnecessary eponymous category. Appears to be a category for a company that "has spawned" other entertainment websites. The talk page notes that the company's name is RinkWorks (with a capital W) so if by some chance this is kept it needs to be renamed. Lquilter (talk) 19:22, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Terraxos (talk) 01:09, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Ulan Bator members[edit]

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The result of the debate was delete. the wub "?!" 17:16, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Delete not needed for one article, if kept rename to Category:Ulan Bator (band) members to match the article and avoid having the Mongolian capital's city council added here to. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 18:47, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete too likely to be confused with the Mongolian capital's citizens. 70.51.11.83 (talk) 09:52, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:U.S. politicians who changed party affiliation[edit]

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The result of the debate was delete. the wub "?!" 17:16, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Delete a not uncommon occurence and not defining for most, grouping together a bunch of people by one event in their lives, little different that Category:U.S. politicians who changed spouses. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 18:43, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Certainly not defining and in many instances not even notable. --Lquilter (talk) 19:22, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. In some cases it is defining and notable. Having said that, this would probably be unmanageable since for many people the determination of their membership change being notable or defining would be strictly POV. If kept, rename to Category:United States politicians who changed party affiliation. Vegaswikian (talk) 20:13, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Tokimeki Memorial[edit]

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The result of the debate was delete. Kbdank71 15:38, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Delete unnecessary eponymous cat for a series. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 18:41, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Theatre Pasta award winners[edit]

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The result of the debate was delete. the wub "?!" 17:13, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Delete unnecessary cat for minor award and an article masquerading in category space. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 18:39, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom (though the author is free to recreate it as an article). Terraxos (talk) 01:08, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Stacie Orrico[edit]

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The result of the debate was delete. the wub "?!" 17:13, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Delete unnecessary eponymous cat for a pop singer. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 18:34, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Terraxos (talk) 01:07, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Seibu Yūrakuchō Line[edit]

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The result of the debate was no consensus. Kbdank71 15:48, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Suggest merging Category:Seibu Yūrakuchō Line to Category:Seibu Railway

Nominator's rationale: Merge, unneeded for one article, merge to what would be its parent were it not in the orphanage. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 18:30, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose as sorting train stations by their line is one goal of the Japan train wikiproject; as well as classifying train cars by the lines on which they run, etc. Similar cats such as Category:Seibu Shinjuku Line already have some of this in their cats; and, most of the JR lines (Category:Tōhoku Shinkansen for example) are even more complete. Neier (talk) 12:31, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:SM Caen[edit]

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The result of the debate was delete. Kbdank71 15:37, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Delete category not needed for one item, a template. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 18:28, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Pavel Vozenilek (talk) 11:01, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Radio stations in Devils Lake[edit]

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The result of the debate was upmerge. Kbdank71 15:46, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Delete unneeded for the one entry, a template. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 18:23, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Unpopulated and excessively specific. Category:Radio stations in North Dakota is just fine. JPG-GR (talk) 19:26, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Possibly too specific but an editor (not me) is currently populating this category. - Dravecky (talk) 23:15, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete unless there is some significance for a Devils Lake-Langdon market. If kept, at a minimum, it needs renaming to include the state so that it is not ambiguous. Vegaswikian (talk) 03:51, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
An obvious case for upmerge. Peterkingiron (talk) 23:47, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- An upmerge would need to be manual since there is a Canadian station in the mix. Vegaswikian (talk) 06:49, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Rename to Category:Radio stations in Devils Lake, North Dakota for consistency with the parent article and category as well as geographical consistency across all such articles. (There are a number of similar renames pending with more to come.) - Dravecky (talk) 06:48, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- That suggestion may not work unless we annexed a part of Canada into North Dakota or we consider that a part of Canada is in the Devils Lake metropolitan area. Vegaswikian (talk) 01:20, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  - I have no problem believing that a border city is covered by signals from the other side of the border. It's certainly common from U.S. state to U.S. state. - Dravecky (talk) 05:03, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Upmerge per Vegaswikian. JPG-GR (talk) 02:30, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Museums in Koka, Shiga[edit]

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The result of the debate was upmerge. Kbdank71 15:36, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Koka is a small city and has only one museum. This category has no expectation of expansion. Miho Museum should be categorized into Category:Art museums and galleries in Japan and Category:Shiga Prefecture in replacement. Umebo (talk) 12:20, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete/merge per nom. I notice there are a number of similar one-item categories in Category:Museums by city, from Japan and elsewhere. Regardless of the "wider scheme", I think this category should be restricted to cities with at least 3 or 4 entries - mostly only the major US & European cities use this category, but imagine what it would look like if every city piled in. Johnbod (talk) 18:15, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Merge - I also second Johbod's opinion about one-item categories for Japan. It seems that recently, many things have been subdivided by city without much need. A case could be made for the largest cities, but, that may even be overkill. At any rate, that is something for us to eventually discuss at WP:WPJ, and not here. Neier (talk) 12:24, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Upmerge this and similar categories as nom, or to a regional category. Single article categories which cannot be populated are pointless. Peterkingiron (talk) 23:50, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Upmerge per nom. Overcategorization. --MChew (talk) 07:36, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom and if possible implement Johnbod's suggestion w/o CfD for every single category. Pavel Vozenilek (talk) 11:02, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Airport articles using Airport Infobox template[edit]

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The result of the debate was delete. Kbdank71 15:34, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Category is redundant. This information can be found using the What links here option on the templates page, and thus the category has no useful reason for existing. Thewinchester ^(talk) 09:11, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Also a breach of WP:SELF in a rather major way. While such categories can come into existence for testing purposes or for setting up a bot to make changes for a very short period of time, this does not appear to be one of them. Self-referencing categories are useless for readers and do not translate to other content providers using Wiki content. Orderinchaos 08:12, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I created the category so that a bot could output a count of the number of old articles using a template no longer in use (see: Wikipedia:WikiProject Aviation/Maintenance/Backlog). I have no problem with it being deleted, for the above valid reasons, but I would appreciate and suggestions on an alternate way to get a count. - Trevor MacInnis (Contribs) 21:28, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Lubbock[edit]

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The result of the debate was rename all. the wub "?!" 16:49, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:Education in Lubbock to Category:Education in Lubbock, Texas

Propose renaming Category:Sports in Lubbock to Category:Sports in Lubbock, Texas

Propose renaming Category:Sports venues in Lubbock to Category:Sports venues in Lubbock, Texas

Propose renaming Category:Television stations in Lubbock to Category:Television stations in Lubbock, Texas

Nominator's rationale: Rename. Rename to use the name of the parent category, Category:Lubbock, Texas and use a single form with the sub cats. Vegaswikian (talk) 07:15, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Rename all per nom for consistency with parent category and main article Lubbock, Texas. Snocrates 21:00, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Rename all per Snocrates. - Dravecky (talk) 06:48, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:People of Recent Christian/Jewish Lineage[edit]

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The result of the debate was delete. the wub "?!" 16:42, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Seems like a very odd category, and the description on the category page ("Category for notable people who have at least one Christian and at least one Jewish grandparent") doesn't really assert notability. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 07:04, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Ambiguous based on the title and not a defining characteristic. Vegaswikian (talk) 07:47, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete way too vague. How Christian or Jewish do you have to be & what does it matter. Never likely to be even 5% complete. Johnbod (talk) 13:07, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - I'm not certain what a Christian lineage would be, and this is way too "one-drop rule" parsing of ancestry to be defining on a group basis. --Lquilter (talk) 19:24, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - This is indeed a rather odd category. The creator appears to be a very new editor -- I'd love to know what he/she was thinking. I left a notice of the CFD on his/her talk page (using {{cfd-notify}} ), so maybe we will find out. Cgingold (talk) 06:48, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Intermarriage between Christians and Jews in the past 150 years has been so common that this is potentially an enormous category. For it to be retained, some one needs to establish that this is a notable intersection. Accordingly, Weak delete. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Peterkingiron (talk • contribs) 23:53, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. If we look at say Lenny Kravitz there is no evidence at all of the Christian side of things unless Bahamian-Americans are all Christian. In any case what about the 2 (possible) remaining grand-parents? Don't they get a look-in? -- roundhouse0 (talk) 21:54, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete The Question then become does Jewish mean ethnically or religiously--Java7837 (talk) 01:02, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Academy Juvenile Award winning actors[edit]

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The result of the debate was rename. Kbdank71 15:33, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:Academy Juvenile Award winning actors to Category:Academy Juvenile Award winners

Nominator's rationale: Rename - to match the other subcats of Category:Academy Award winners. Otto4711 (talk) 04:23, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Raoul Wallenberg Award recipients[edit]

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The result of the debate was delete. the wub "?!" 16:41, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: The award does not appear to be a defining characteristic for the receiptents. Vegaswikian (talk) 03:33, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There is no need to listify since the main article already has a list of the recipients. Vegaswikian (talk) 03:42, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 04:22, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What's your reasoning? --Lquilter (talk) 15:18, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This editor created the category and the main article. Vegaswikian (talk) 20:15, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - overcategorization by award, not defining of its recipients. Otto4711 (talk) 04:24, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Wikipedia:OC#Award_winners. Doczilla (talk) 06:28, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - the "award winners" categories are not very helpful and the award page itself has all the relevant information. --Lquilter (talk) 15:18, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Denmark is not defined by being recipient of an award. Pavel Vozenilek (talk) 11:00, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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