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Category:Whiting class seaplane tenders[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: Rename to Category:Kenneth Whiting class seaplane tenders. --Xdamrtalk 14:02, 18 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Whiting class seaplane tenders to Category:Kenneth Whiting class seaplane tenders
Nominator's rationale: Rename. U.S. Navy classes are typically named for the full name of the lead ship, which in this case is USS Kenneth Whiting. The Dictionary of American Naval Fighting Ships identifies three of the four ships ([1], [2], and [3]) as Kenneth Whiting class ([4] is listed as Whiting class). Two other RS give the class name as Kenneth Whiting: Globalsecurity.org ([5]) and Navsource.org ([6], [7], [8], and [9]). — Bellhalla (talk) 19:50, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Photography, vernacular[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Rename to Category:Vernacular photography. --Xdamrtalk 14:03, 18 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Photography, vernacular to Category:Vernacular photography
Nominator's rationale: Rename. The CfR was never completed. I am doing so on behalf of the nominator, and I agree that the proposed rename is better, per the main article Vernacular photography Now, whether or not others feel that this category has little room for growth is another matter. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:52, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Sex symbols[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete per snow and G4 speedy. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:50, 14 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Sex symbols (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete. This category is too subjective. It includes things like Boy band, Playboy, Jenna Jameson, and Girls with guns. It seems to just be a collection of things related to sex symbols and has no objective defining characteristic. Dismas|(talk) 18:26, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. No future in it. (Sorry, I just read some of Steven Brust's books.) I mean, no clear purpose, no clear criteria for inclusion, no clear meaning. If the articles and categories were moved from other categories, rather than just being added to this one, restore the other categories. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 18:29, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete no clear definition. Darrenhusted (talk) 18:32, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: There was a 2005 discussion closed as a no consensus keep and a second 2005 discussion resulting in a delete and a 2006 speedy delete as empty and previously deleted. Vegaswikian (talk) 18:57, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - per previous discussion of this any other similar categories. No objective inclusion criteria, requires POV and OR. Somebody calls pretty much every famous attractive person a "sex symbol" or the like. Otto4711 (talk) 19:36, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as there is no clear method for identifying the rationale for an article's inclusion. Plastikspork (talk) 21:16, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy delete as recreation of previously deleted category. (Also delete as a completely POV form of categorization - it doesn't contain men, especially Brad Pitt ;) That's a joke, folks.) Wildhartlivie (talk) 22:12, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete pretty much per everybody above. Category created and populated today (my time) by lone editor with idiosyncratic seletion criteria. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 02:59, 11 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete because of lack of criteria. Debresser (talk) 22:55, 11 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete one person's sex symbol....let's not go there. Subjective is a kind word about this cat. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 00:12, 14 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Unuseful category, and certaily misused currently. The category has such child categories as Category:Barbie, Category:Polyamory, Category:Celibacy(!!!) etc. No objective definition of what should be included. Jafeluv (talk) 08:12, 14 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Totally subjective. Niteshift36 (talk) 16:13, 14 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy delete as G4, and salt because it just keeps f@ckin' coming back over and over again. Bearcat (talk) 19:54, 14 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:18th Century in Great Britain[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Merge Category:18th century in the United Kingdom to Category:18th Century in Great Britain. --Xdamrtalk 13:48, 18 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Suggest merging Category:18th Century in Great Britain to Category:18th century in the United Kingdom
Nominator's rationale: Merge. Duplicate category. Tim! (talk) 17:28, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Order of Léopold recipients[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Rename to Category:Order of Leopold recipients. --Xdamrtalk 13:49, 18 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Order of Léopold recipients to Category:Order of Leopold recipients
Nominator's rationale: The actual article is without the accent (since a move in November 2007). The category should reflect this. English name for the king is without accent. Fram (talk) 14:46, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nominator. No accents in categories. Debresser (talk) 22:54, 11 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • No problem, but renaming should be to Order of Leopold (Belgium) as there are two Orders of Leopold (Belgium and Austria) whoch are clearly distinct orders. This category only refers to the Belgian one. Bheuninckx (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 16:12, 13 July 2009 (UTC).[reply]

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Category:Tamagotchi Versions[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Merge to Category:Tamagotchi. --Xdamrtalk 13:50, 18 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Tamagotchi Versions to Category:Tamagotchi versions
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Technical nomination. Found as incomplete doing cleanup. Vegaswikian (talk) 06:51, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Alumni of the Hochschule für Musik "Hanns Eisler"[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Rename to Category:Hochschule für Musik Hanns Eisler alumni for consistency with the parent article and Category:Alumni by university or college in Germany. --Xdamrtalk 14:05, 18 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Alumni of the Hochschule für Musik "Hanns Eisler" to Category:Alumni of the Hochschule für Musik "Hanns Eisler", Berlin
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Technical nomination. Found as incomplete doing cleanup. Vegaswikian (talk) 06:48, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think it is not neccesary to add "Berlin", since there's only one Hochschule für Musik "Hanns Eisler". In Germany there're hochschules that have no name (ie. Hochschule für Musik, Munchen), and in that case it is neccesary to specify the city. The name of the city is not neccesary here, as it is not neccesary with "The Juilliard School" ("Category:Alumni of the Juilliard School, NY"?) or "The Royal Academy of Music" ("Category:Alumni of the Royal Academy of Music, London"?). Thank you. --Karljoos (talk) 19:15, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Preceding comment copied from the category talk page. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 07:51, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dresden is not part of the proper name - the academics have a comma & the alumni should do too. The language question is valid - but it would sound silly literally translated as "High school". Johnbod (talk) 17:59, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Their translation is 'The Academy of Music Hanns Eisler Berlin' (no quotes, no commas). (And the other one, according to its website www.hfmdd.de is 'Hochschule für Musik Carl Maria von Weber Dresden'.) Occuli (talk) 23:48, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, but then the article needs moving. Johnbod (talk) 00:04, 11 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename for clarity, consistency with article, & per other debate (above). Maybe no comma - see above.Johnbod (talk) 14:42, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Disagree per Karljoos as not needed for disambiguation. Debresser (talk) 22:53, 11 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Philip K. Dick Memorial Award[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete Category:Philip K. Dick Memorial Award and Category:Philip K. Dick Memorial Award winner. --Xdamrtalk 14:00, 18 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Philip K. Dick Memorial Award to Category:Philip K. Dick Award
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Technical nomination. Was an incomplete speedy that is not eligible as a speedy so listing here. Vegaswikian (talk) 06:44, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Rename Category:Philip K. Dick Memorial Award to Category:Philip K. Dick Award
It's the Philip K. Dick Award (Philip K. Dick Award), see
http://www.philipkdickaward.org/ The official award homepage
http://www.philipkdick.com/links_pkdaward.html
http://www.locusmag.com/SFAwards/index.html Major Awards
http://www.locusmag.com/SFAwards/Db/Pkd.html
http://www.strangehorizons.com/2002/20020415/awards.shtml
--Ultramarinblau1969 (talk) 00:22, 12 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Naat khawans[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Rename to Category:Naat Khawans. --Xdamrtalk 13:52, 18 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Naat khawans to Category:Naat Khawans
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Technical nomination for an incomplete nomination. Vegaswikian (talk) 06:38, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Note the main article is at Naat and the category appears to be for an occupation based on the included article infoboxes. Vegaswikian (talk) 19:04, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Question Why should be rename to a second capital? We never have second capitals, with exeption of proper names. Debresser (talk) 23:02, 11 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Sci Fi Channel shows[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:SyFy original programs. King of ♠ 17:00, 17 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Sci Fi Channel shows to Category:Syfy original programming
Nominator's rationale: To match new channel name and better clarify that it is for their original shows and not just anything that airs on it -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 02:16, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Programs sounds fine to me as well. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 06:51, 11 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Sci Fi Channel original films[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: No Consensus. --Xdamrtalk 14:09, 18 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Sci Fi Channel original films to Category:Sci Fi Pictures original films
Nominator's rationale: To match the company name used on the films rather than the channel name (basically reversing someone's replacing of the original cat with a less correct one) -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 02:15, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree completely here. Syfy is still calling it Sci Fi Original Pictures and not Syfy, same as they retained the name Sci Fi Wire, unless you've seen a source saying otherwise. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 06:59, 11 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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