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Category:Composers who studied law[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: listify. — ξ ^xplicit 02:09, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Delete. An intersection of profession (composer, for which the members are typically notable for) and side-pursuit (for which they are not). We don't otherwise categorize people by intersection of profession and what they happened to otherwise study or be interested in. We even usually delete categories that categorize people by the intersection of two professions, as in actor–singers, and this doesn't even go so far as to suggest these are "composer–lawyers"—they are not notable for being composers and separately notable for also being lawyers. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 22:14, 5 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Listify One has to admit it is an interestingly large group, of some encyclopedic value. Johnbod (talk) 03:07, 6 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Good Ol’factory – a non-defining category. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 05:55, 6 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Listify This is a fairly interesting group, but not category-worthy. -- doorautomatica (talk) 14:06, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Listify -- Too intersting to delete out of hand. Peterkingiron (talk) 22:21, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Norwegian people by historical event[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. — ξ ^xplicit 02:09, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:Norwegian people by historical event to Category:Norwegian people

Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary intermediate categorization layer which contains only one category. -- Black Falcon ^(talk) 22:14, 5 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support rename. No such cat tree exists and don t see at this point that it should Mayumashu (talk) 13:49, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Football (soccer) hooliganism[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Association football hooliganism. — ξ ^xplicit 02:09, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:Football (soccer) hooliganism to Category:Football hooliganism or Category:Association football hooliganism

Nominator's rationale: For consistency with the main article (Football hooliganism) or the parent category (Category:Association football culture). I am not nominating the subcategory at this time as there are other issues associated with it which are best discussed separately. -- Black Falcon ^(talk) 22:00, 5 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rename to Category:Association football hooliganism. article pages go by WP:Common name but category pages do not, where there needs to be explicitedness. (Speculating that some users may not knowing the more formal name of 'football' is not a matter of concern for WP catting - it s one for those particular users to invest three seconds into.) Mayumashu (talk) 13:47, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:People of the Ottoman Empire[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: keep. — ξ ^xplicit 19:58, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:People of the Ottoman Empire to Category:Ottoman people

Nominator's rationale: Merge. Duplicate categories. "FOOian people" is the standard for Category:People by nationality, and Category:Ottoman people seems relatively unambiguous. The subcategories seem to use use "Ottoman FOOs". A reverse merge is also possible, though it would depart from the convention. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 22:00, 5 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

comment leaning to keep. Empires are tricky, especially when they melt down. They don't fit into the simple schemes of modern nation-states. Muhammad Ali of Egypt ruled his part of the Greater Ottoman Empire with such a degree of independence that any "Ottoman categorization", although technically correct, may mislead the unsuspecting reader into believing that he was, indeed, "a man of the Empire". "Ottoman people" seems particularly deceptive. In my opinion it should be limited to Ottoman Turks and exclude the Egyptians, Syrians, Slavs, Armenians etc. Hell, the Empire employed many thoroughbred Englishmen. Does Sir Adolphus Slade, Admiral of the Ottoman Empire, belong to "Ottoman people"? NVO (talk) 08:55, 6 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per NVO. "Ottoman Jews" should not be in "Turkic peoples", and so on. The Ottoman empire, unlike some, recognised that its peoples had many nationalities as well as ethnicities - see Millet (Ottoman Empire). A reverse merge would make more sense - there are only 4 people in the main "Ottoman people" cat, of whom Ruhi Khalidi is a 19th century pro-Turkish Palestinian Arab who should not be there, and the others are much older. The set-up here seems no different from Category:People of the Mongol Empire, containing loads of Han Chinese in sub-cats. Johnbod (talk) 13:49, 6 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Based upon current usage, "Ottoman people" comprises Ottoman Turks or in one case an Ottoman Kurdish administrator. "People of the Ottoman Empire" is a much wider category. However, once this issue is settled, is will be necessary to review the articles placed in the "People of the Ottoman Empire" cat and, where possible, to allocate them to a more specific category. Davshul (talk) 18:55, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Either Keep or Reverse merge Category:Ottoman people is only a small category. If I remember correctly, Ottoman strictly refers only to the rulers - descendants of Osman. Peterkingiron (talk) 22:24, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Canadian musical performers[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. — ξ ^xplicit 02:09, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Delete. This category isn't useful and not needed by the Wikipedia:WikiProject Canadian music. I have removed it's children Category:Canadian musical groups, Category:Canadian musicians, Category:Canadian Music Hall of Fame inductees. They are elsewhere in the Category:Canadian music tree. This category was under used. It was never linked (as far a I can tell) to Category:Musical performers. I've been trying to think who should be in this "musical performers" cat. Each time I came up with a name, they could be placed into Category:Canadian musical groups or Category:Canadian musicians. Argolin (talk) 21:27, 5 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Jewish agricultural colonies[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: keep. — ξ ^xplicit 19:58, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Delete. Extra level of navigation. The subcategory has an entry into the populated places tree and the only sub category directly here has a parent that should cover what it is. Vegaswikian (talk) 20:17, 5 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I created it and I plan to create other subcategories, e.g. Category:Jewish agricultural colonies in Latin America and Category:Jewish agricultural colonies in Palestine. Please do not delete. --Vicky Ng (talk) 20:39, 5 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Per Vicky Ng.--Epeefleche (talk) 22:03, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep let this evolve. Chesdovi (talk) 22:47, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Pacific Northwest Ballet[edit]

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Relisted at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2010 May 15#Category:Pacific Northwest Ballet. — ξ ^xplicit 19:58, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:Pacific Northwest Ballet to Category:Ballet companies in the United States and Category:Pacific Northwest

Nominator's rationale: Merge. Merge into both parents. Single entry category with limited short term expansion. Vegaswikian (talk) 19:36, 5 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Mexican American images[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. — ξ ^xplicit 01:10, 22 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Single-entry category that is ambiguously-named: are the images Mexican-American, are they images of Mexican-Americans, or are they images related to Mexican-American topics? Perhaps merge to Category:Mexican-American history and/or Category:Mexican-American organizations. -- Black Falcon ^(talk) 19:14, 5 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support nomination. I wish it were the case that a category needed 5 links to exist and anything less was automatic upmerging Mayumashu (talk) 13:43, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Mexican American leaders[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. — ξ ^xplicit 02:09, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:Mexican American leaders to Category:American people of Mexican descent

Nominator's rationale: "Leaders" is not a good basis for categorization (note that Category:Leaders is a redlink), since anyone from a low-level management employee at a small firm to a head of state is a "leader". My guess, based on a review of the category's content, is that this category is intended primarily for activists and politicians: 38 of the 49 articles in this category are in Category:American politicians and Category:American activists or their subcategories. I am proposing an upmerge because deletion would remove 31 of the 49 articles from the American people of Mexican descent tree. (Category creator notified using Template:Cfd-notify) -- Black Falcon ^(talk) 17:57, 5 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support there is no tree Category:Leaders, nor should there be of course Mayumashu (talk) 13:42, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. This is inappropriately vague and pretty subjective. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 22:31, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Controversies in the United States by year[edit]

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Relisted at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2010 May 15#Controversies in the United States by year. — ξ ^xplicit 19:58, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:2006 controversies in the United States to Category:2006 controversies and Category:2006 in the United States

Propose merging Category:2009 controversies in the United States to Category:2009 controversies and Category:2009 in the United States

Nominator's rationale: Merge. There are not so many articles in the parent controversies by year as to require further subdivision by country. Tim! (talk) 17:35, 5 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Arts (Manual of Style)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Rename all as follows:

Renames:

עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 19:47, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:Arts (Manual of Style) to Category:Wikipedia Manual of Style (Arts)

Nominator's rationale: Speedy per parent and DAB Gnevin (talk) 16:41, 5 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support, but with lower-case disambiguators for all (e.g., "arts" instead of "Arts") except, of course, "China". Rename Category:Wikipedia content (Manual of Style) to Category:Wikipedia Manual of Style (Wikipedia content). -- Black Falcon ^(talk) 17:48, 5 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Support Project content should reside in "Wikipedia ..." name categories, instead of being confused for article content categories 70.29.208.247 (talk) 06:57, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support with lower-case disambiguators. -- doorautomatica (talk) 14:12, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Cities and towns in the Inland Empire (California)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Merge. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 20:21, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:Cities and towns in the Inland Empire (California) to Category:Populated places in the Inland Empire (California)

Nominator's rationale: Merge. The target was up for speedy deletion. So, we need to nominate this one now. Vegaswikian (talk) 09:12, 5 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per latest thinking on this matter. Occuli (talk) 09:17, 5 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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More settlements[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Rename/merge all. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 07:50, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

c. 25 country categories

Rename Category:Settlements in Afghanistan to Category:Populated places in Afghanistan

Rename Category:Settlements in Albania to Category:Populated places in Albania

Rename Category:Settlements in Algeria to Category:Populated places in Algeria

Rename Category:Settlements in Andorra to Category:Populated places in Andorra

Rename Category:Settlements in Angola to Category:Populated places in Angola

Rename Category:Settlements in Antigua and Barbuda to Category:Populated places in Antigua and Barbuda

Rename Category:Settlements in Argentina to Category:Populated places in Argentina

Rename Category:Settlements in Armenia to Category:Populated places in Armenia

Rename Category:Settlements in Aruba to Category:Populated places in Aruba

Rename Category:Settlements in Australia to Category:Populated places in Australia

Rename Category:Settlements in Austria to Category:Populated places in Austria

Rename Category:Settlements in Azerbaijan to Category:Populated places in Azerbaijan

Rename Category:Settlements in the Bahamas to Category:Populated places in the Bahamas

Rename Category:Settlements in Bahrain to Category:Populated places in Bahrain

Rename Category:Settlements in Bangladesh to Category:Populated places in Bangladesh

Rename Category:Settlements in Barbados to Category:Populated places in Barbados

Rename Category:Settlements in Belarus to Category:Populated places in Belarus

Rename Category:Settlements in Belgium to Category:Populated places in Belgium

Rename Category:Settlements in Belize to Category:Populated places in Belize

Rename Category:Settlements in Benin to Category:Populated places in Benin

Rename Category:Settlements in Bermuda to Category:Populated places in Bermuda

Rename Category:Settlements in Bhutan to Category:Populated places in Bhutan

Rename Category:Settlements in Bolivia to Category:Populated places in Bolivia

Rename Category:Settlements in Bosnia and Herzegovina to Category:Populated places in Bosnia and Herzegovina

Rename Category:Settlements in Botswana to Category:Populated places in Botswana

Rename Category:Settlements in Brazil to Category:Populated places in Brazil

Rename Category:Settlements in the British Virgin Islands to Category:Populated places in the British Virgin Islands

Rename Category:Settlements in Brunei to Category:Populated places in Brunei

Rename Category:Settlements in Bulgaria to Category:Populated places in Bulgaria

Rename Category:Settlements in Burkina Faso to Category:Populated places in Burkina Faso

Rename Category:Settlements in Burma to Category:Populated places in Burma

Rename Category:Settlements in Burundi to Category:Populated places in Burundi

Rename Category:Settlements in Cambodia to Category:Populated places in Cambodia

c. 25 more country categories (merges)

Merge Category:Cities, towns and villages in Afghanistan to Category:Populated places in Afghanistan

Merge Category:Cities, towns and villages in Albania to Category:Populated places in Albania

Merge Category:Cities, towns and villages in Algeria to Category:Populated places in Algeria

Merge Category:Cities, towns and villages in Andorra to Category:Populated places in Andorra

Merge Category:Cities, towns and villages in Angola to Category:Populated places in Angola

Merge Category:Cities, towns and villages in Antigua and Barbuda to Category:Populated places in Antigua and Barbuda

Merge Category:Cities, towns and villages in Argentina to Category:Populated places in Argentina

Merge Category:Cities, towns and villages in Armenia to Category:Populated places in Armenia

Merge Category:Cities, towns and villages in Aruba to Category:Populated places in Aruba

Merge Category:Cities, towns and villages in Austria to Category:Populated places in Austria

Merge Category:Cities, towns and villages in Azerbaijan to Category:Populated places in Azerbaijan

Merge Category:Cities, towns and villages in the Bahamas to Category:Populated places in the Bahamas

Merge Category:Cities, towns and villages in Bahrain to Category:Populated places in Bahrain

Merge Category:Cities, towns and villages in Bangladesh to Category:Populated places in Bangladesh

Merge Category:Cities, towns and villages in Barbados to Category:Populated places in Barbados

Merge Category:Cities and towns in Belarus to Category:Populated places in Belarus

Merge Category:Cities and towns in Belgium to Category:Populated places in Belgium

Merge Category:Cities, towns and villages in Belize to Category:Populated places in Belize

Merge Category:Cities, towns and villages in Benin to Category:Populated places in Benin

Merge Category:Cities, towns and villages in Bhutan to Category:Populated places in Bhutan

Merge Category:Cities, towns and villages in Bolivia to Category:Populated places in Bolivia

Merge Category:Cities and towns in Bosnia and Herzegovina to Category:Populated places in Bosnia and Herzegovina

Merge Category:Cities, towns and villages in Botswana to Category:Populated places in Botswana

Merge Category:Cities, towns and villages in Brunei to Category:Populated places in Brunei

Merge Category:Cities, towns and villages in Bulgaria to Category:Populated places in Bulgaria

Merge Category:Cities and towns in Bulgaria to Category:Populated places in Bulgaria

Merge Category:Cities, towns and villages in Burkina Faso to Category:Populated places in Burkina Faso

Merge Category:Cities, towns and villages in Burma to Category:Populated places in Burma

Merge Category:Cities, towns and villages in Burundi to Category:Populated places in Burundi

Merge Category:Cities, towns and villages in Cambodia to Category:Populated places in Cambodia

Nominator's rationale: Rename Per this discussion. Anyone know if there is anyway to tag these categories bot? ^{şṗøʀĸɕäɾłäů∂ɛ:τᴀʟĸ} 07:24, 5 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No tagging bot I know of. That question has been asked many times in the past. Vegaswikian (talk) 08:59, 5 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I will tag as many as I can. Help if anyone can. ^{şṗøʀĸɕäɾłäů∂ɛ:τᴀʟĸ} 09:45, 5 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tagging help requested at Wikipedia:Bot requests/Archive 36#Tagging circa 850 categories for renaming. -- Black Falcon ^(talk) 17:44, 5 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A bot for tagging should be up soon. These others will be reposted then. ^{şṗøʀĸɕäɾłäů∂ɛ:τᴀʟĸ} 22:29, 5 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment here if you want: Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Mobius Bot 2. ^{şṗøʀĸɕäɾłäů∂ɛ:τᴀʟĸ} 01:42, 6 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support all However you will also need to recat sub categories of some countries in the same way.Starzynka (talk) 13:16, 5 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose -- settlements is a perfectly satisfactory term. Peterkingiron (talk) 22:26, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support all per consensus-building.--Mike Selinker (talk) 00:22, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Wont this rename proposal just open the door for having "Cat:Cities in _blank_" "Cat:Towns in _blank_" and "Cat:Villages in _blank_" all over again? As I recalled, they were merged into that one catch-all so that the likelihood of having separate cats for cities, towns and also villages don't balloon out of control. Secondly "places" seems to me like anything could go in there. For example: An article about a city block, town square or even Marina resort could go in "places", no? CaribDigita (talk) 01:34, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Former settlements[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename all, while reflecting the capitalization as noted by Mike Selinker. — ξ ^xplicit 02:09, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming:

Nominator's rationale: Rename. Per Wikipedia talk:Categorization/Categorising human settlements and Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2010 April 17#Category:Settlements. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 06:20, 5 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rename all per consensus, but rename Category:Former settlements in south west Asia to Category:Former populated places in Southwest Asia, and Category:Former settlements in south Asia to Category:Former populated places in South Asia.--Mike Selinker (talk) 23:03, 5 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I, as nominator, have no opinion one way or the other about these alternatives. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 08:53, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Magazine compilation albums[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename. — ξ ^xplicit 02:09, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:Magazine compilation albums to Category:Compilation albums included with magazines

Nominator's rationale: To dab from Magazine (band). —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:18, 5 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rename per nom. -- doorautomatica (talk) 14:13, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of 2001[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: keep. — ξ ^xplicit 01:10, 22 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Delete. These performers are well covered in the article and the year in which they were an entrant is not notable for most if not all of these. If this passes, then a mass nomination for the remaining categories will need to made. Note well that some of the members here are listed in multiple related categories adding to category clutter on the article pages. Vegaswikian (talk) 01:37, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - delete makes the extra claim that being a Eurovision Song Contest entrant is not defining, which I would dispute as it is an annual hullabaloo which goes on for months. Upmerge to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants makes the claim that year is not defining, but produces an enormous category. [see below] It is not usual to appear more than say twice in Eurovision, so clutter is not unbounded ... Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants by nationality would be another way to go, but not incompatible with 'by year'. (Elena Paparizou is in 2 of these.) My own view is that 'Eurovision Song Contest entrant' is defining and subcatting by year is a sensible scheme. Occuli (talk) 09:35, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Further comment - on a second look I see that Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants does have Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants by country so 'delete' will still leave entrants in a subcat of Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants. Eg Cliff Richard is in 3 Eurovision categories ... still, this doesn't seem excessive. Occuli (talk) 19:43, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 04:26, 5 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. A helpful and not at all unusual way to categorize them.--Epeefleche (talk) 22:02, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Isotope separation facilities of Manhattan Project[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Isotope separation facilities of the Manhattan Project. — ξ ^xplicit 01:10, 22 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: The current name of this category sounds a little...odd. (And not just because it's missing "the"). And there's only three entries. Now, in some scenarios, three entries makes a category; in others, one can justify a category (in certain trees, anyway). In this one, however, I think we have a case of WP:OC, and these three articles would be better served in the parent category. - The Bushranger (talk) 03:32, 5 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep. The main category Category:Manhattan Project has a lot of entries so this might be usfeful if looking for that particular sub-topic. I would classify it as harmless rather than OC; although it does need a 'the'. Twiceuponatime (talk) 07:58, 6 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm. I suppose if that's the case, perhaps it could be speedied per C2A to Category:Isotope separation facilities of the Manhattan Project? - The Bushranger _{Return fire}^{Flank speed} 15:44, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Being of a pedantic nature I might prefer Category:Isotope separation facilities of the Manhattan Project. Twiceuponatime (talk) 08:22, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oops, good point there. That would be the better spelling. Fixed. And Support rename. :) - The Bushranger _{Return fire}^{Flank speed} 18:39, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep seperate but rename. I can see that Isotope separation facilities of Manhattan Project is a subcat of Isotope separation facilities, but would prefer seperate subcats for all facilities/plants etc in Tennessee & Washington State ie Clinton Engineer Works (CEW) and Hanford Engineer Works (HEW). To go with the Los Alamos category Hugo999 (talk) 11:16, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Films having post-credits scenes[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. — ξ ^xplicit 02:09, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Delete. This category was deleted in 2006, so this is re-creation of previously deleted material. Because it's been over 3 years, I thought a new discussion would be appropriate. This is a trivial and non-defining aspect of the films in question. In the past, we have deleted many categories that categorize media that happen to feature some quirk or another—songs using auto-tune, films featuring pugs, Copy Control albums, Films featuring the Devil, TV shows with voice over commentary, etc. This seems to be analogous to all these. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 01:41, 5 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. "Stingers" seem to be becoming the rule rather than the exception, among all the other reasons. - The Bushranger (talk) 03:27, 5 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. No reason to overturn 2006 deletion decision, that I can see. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:46, 5 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete As non-defining. Lugnuts (talk) 17:26, 5 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep If there's a valid reason other than "we've done it before" I'd like to hear it. --uKER (talk) 11:15, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- How about my sentence in the nomination: "This is a trivial and non-defining aspect of the films in question."? Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 03:02, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Terms and concepts of the 2000s United States housing bubble[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. — ξ ^xplicit 02:09, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: The parent Category:United States housing bubble refers only the 2000s bubble. Having a variant "Terms and concepts of the ..." subcategory is either redundant, or stretching the category system too far. While many of the articles in this category are specific to the US bubble, several are more general (e.g. Mortgage loan, London Interbank Offered Rate, Moral hazard and, until I removed it just now, Recession). If people feel we need a glossary for the bubble, the category could be turned into a list, but my preference would be to upmerge then root out the superfluous bits. --Avenue (talk) 00:46, 5 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support - The Bushranger (talk) 03:26, 5 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. -- doorautomatica (talk) 14:14, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Terrorists from Pakistan[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: speedy delete criterion G4—re-creation of Category:Pakistani terrorists, which was previously deleted. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 01:43, 5 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Recently created and filled up category by a new user. From little value as all articles are already well categorized and often problematic. The parent category was deleted following this Afd and i suggest to delete this new category as well for the same reasons. IQinn (talk) 23:34, 4 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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