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August 13[edit]

Category:Venues in Melbourne[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. The Bushranger One ping only 22:48, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Merge to Category:Buildings and structures in Melbourne and Category:Visitor attractions in Melbourne. This is apparently the only by city event venue category and at this time I don't see a reason to expand or continue this by city tree. Vegaswikian (talk) 22:18, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
These may also need to be included in an appropriate subcategory of Category:Event venues. Vegaswikian (talk) 22:52, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Thunderbirds locations, objects and vehicles[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. The Bushranger One ping only 01:35, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Merge. Too wide; both this and the head category only contain a few pages. The pages are already categorised within fictional vehicles, locations etc. – Fayenatic London 20:04, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge. There is little prospect of any new articles being categorised here (and none of the articles present in this category are really about objects, only locations and vehicles). Up-merging seems reasonable enough to me. SuperMarioMan 20:36, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge The parent category is tiny and could easily absorb what is a rather heterogeneous collection of articles. Mangoe (talk) 23:13, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Types of radios[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: split to Category:Types of radios and Category:Models of radios. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:03, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Split to Category:Radios, or Category:Radio models, or something similar. A few of these are about types in the usual sense, e.g. crystal radio and survival radio, but most are specific models in the history of radio. There is already Category:Radiofrequency receivers but the contents there seem to be rather different, viz. very technical pieces of equipment. – Fayenatic London 19:58, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Utility software type[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename.--Mike Selinker (talk) 22:30, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Rename following others, see Special:Prefixindex/Category: Types of. – Fayenatic London 19:49, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: Would it be useful to have a head category for such categories of articles about generic subjects? Note that they are different from and generally excluded from Category:Categories by type, which hold sub-categories of individual things by type, as opposed to the generic articles here. – Fayenatic London 19:49, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Red dead redemption[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge.--Mike Selinker (talk) 22:31, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: There is not enough material about the video game Red Dead Redemption to justify an eponymous topic category. I created Category:Red Dead as a topic category for the entire Red Dead series and still found only a dozen pages. -- Black Falcon (talk) 19:06, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Iran Locations[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: speedy deleted CSD G7 as ZSpeed agrees it should be deleted and there are no keep votes. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 21:47, 14 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary duplicate category; Category:Populated places in Iran already exists. SuperMarioMan 18:24, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: when I made this category I was still pretty new and I just wanted to do something to occupy my time. ZSpeed (talk) 13:37, 14 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Tagged for speedy deletion given the above comment. Pichpich (talk) 14:13, 14 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Athletics competitions by host[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge/rename. The Bushranger One ping only 01:36, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Extended content
Nominator's rationale: Merge all these. The categories "SportX competitions in Foo" are already used in the sense "hosted by" and it's not like there exist rogue sports competitions that are held in France against French will. I think the intent is to separate certain kinds of international competitions that aren't always held in the same country and where one country is considered a host but there's no formal definition of this and by trying to separate these, we're probably making it harder for our readers to find what they're looking for. Pichpich (talk) 14:28, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Rally templates[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge noncontroversial speedy as duplicate with author's consent. The Bushranger One ping only 23:27, 16 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I think these are logically the same category. I suspect Category:Rally templates was created (in 2011) without knowledge of the existence of Category:Rallying templates (created in 2008). DH85868993 (talk) 11:52, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support: Appear to cover the same topic, and the older category has a less ambiguous name. "Rally" could mean any gathering of people for one purpose, while "rallying" used as a noun is almost always in reference to the motor sport. Pyrope 13:36, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support: As mentioned above, I was completely unaware (until today) of Category:Rallying templates. I only created the category because it was a red-link in Special:WantedCategories. Avicennasis @ 19:57, 25 Av 5772 / 19:57, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Roman Catholic chuches completed in 1905[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: speedy deleted by Vegaswikian (talk · contribs). -- Black Falcon (talk) 22:48, 14 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Empty category created with spelling error Eastlaw talk ⁄ contribs 09:15, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Internet Broadcasting[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Internet broadcasting. The Bushranger One ping only 06:37, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Single entry category for a private company with little chance of expansion, too easily confused with legitimate category Category:Internet broadcasting. Dravecky (talk) 07:16, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge -- This is unlikely to be a large enough company to need its own category, but the article should presumably be in Category:Internet broadcasting. That article may need to be renamed, or possibly a "not to be copnfused with" hatnote on the articles would do the trick. Peterkingiron (talk) 11:05, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Heroes task force[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge Category:Heroes (TV series) task force to Category:Heroes task force. Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2012 June 7 was about renaming from WikiProject; since then, qualifiers such as TV series have not been used on others. – Fayenatic London 07:45, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Redundant duplicate category. Armbrust, B.Ed. WrestleMania XXVIII The Undertaker 20–0 06:47, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Legal buildings in London[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. There was agreement to rename to something, but none of the proposals for a new name has gained consensus.
The suggested "buildings of law" has some support, but discussion stalled a month ago. Feel free to make a fresh nomination without delay. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:32, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

* Propose merging Category:Legal buildings in London to Category:National government buildings in London
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge This category corresponds to one on Commons but I'm not sure it makes sense here. Note first that there is no "legal buildings" categorization subtree anywhere else on Wikipedia which means that readers are unlikely to go looking for Category:Legal buildings in London and that this category is missing one logical parent. Moreover, we already have London subcategories for Courts, Inns of Chancery and Prisons so the merge won't create a big mess upstream. Pichpich (talk) 02:33, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Tim! correctly points out that my original proposal for a merge doesn't work. However, I would favor deletion because there's no "legal buildings" categorization subtree and because, as Peterkingiron explains below, the link between some of these buildings is rather tenuous. Pichpich (talk) 16:02, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
That pretty much kills my original merge proposal, sorry about that. Pichpich (talk) 16:02, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose but rename somehow -- This category has a unity, relating to the administration of justice, but the name is not ideal. As Tim! has said they are not all governmental. The converse of "legal buildings" would be illegal buildings, so that the present name will not do. Another possibility would be a plain delete, on the basis that prisons, courts and Inns of Court [not Inns of Chancery - which are long defunct] are disparate and should not be in a single category. Peterkingiron (talk) 11:01, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename to Category:Buildings of law. Note, category:Courthouses would logically fall in such a category-tree but right now it's just in category:Government buildings. --Lquilter (talk) 02:14, 16 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Do you mean perhaps Category:Buildings of law in London? If this category is kept, shouldn't it be London specific? Pichpich (talk) 03:36, 16 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, that's fine. I imagine that there will be a need for an entire category tree though, since London isn't the only place to have "buildings of law". --Lquilter (talk) 23:46, 16 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Archaeological sites in Europe by country[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Archaeological sites in Europe. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:25, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Merge. Redundant as per category scope. Zoupan 01:34, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose -- The tag on the parent should be implemented and the country articles moved down to the by country category. This will leave this as a parent for "by period", "by region" (which is probably unnecessary) and "by country". Strictly Corsica is not a country and arguably the Channel Islands are not, but we should not be pedantic about this. Peterkingiron (talk) 10:42, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge. The corresponding categories for other continents do not have an intermediate "by country" category level. This one does have some use, as Category:Archaeological sites in Europe by region contains a sub-cat for the Balkans, and the countries within that should not normally also be in the supercategory Category:Archaeological sites in Europe because of the WP:SUBCAT principle. However, in this case I think it is better to upmerge both the nominated category and the "by region" category. The countries in the Balkans need not feel slighted at being down in an intermediate level category (Balkans below Europe), because they will still be in the worldwide Category:Archaeological sites by country. – Fayenatic London 12:33, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge there is nothing gained by having a specific "by country" category.John Pack Lambert (talk) 23:27, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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