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December 23[edit]

Category:Enneatypes[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 22:11, 31 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only two members, neither of which deal with specific “enneatypes”. Fails WP: SMALLCAT. The Category:Pseudoscience label may also be appropriate for the larger category. 108.210.216.182 (talk) 18:29, 23 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Related enough and simplification. —PaleoNeonate – 08:54, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Discworld cities and towns[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. No need to merge since the one article is alreay in Category:Discworld locations. (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 22:14, 31 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Wrong name (should be Category:Discworld populated places), and has one member, potentially failing WP:SMALLCAT. 108.210.216.182 (talk) 17:23, 23 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Juliette Benzoni[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 22:16, 31 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:OCEPON, "eponymous categories named after people should not be created unless enough directly related articles or subcategories exist." This is not the case here and the 3 photos categorized here are all included in the main article anyway. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 16:59, 23 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Rajput clans of Punjab[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: keep. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs)

Nominator's rationale: I'm not sure which direction would be best for this merge but the two categories are essentially dealing with the same thing. Sitush (talk) 10:59, 23 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • But we do not categorise people by caste, so your argument fails on first principles. - Sitush (talk) 14:15, 23 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • A clan is not a person. A person is not a clan. My argument succeeds on first, 2nd, 3rd and subsequent principles. If Category:Punjabi Rajputs (a people category) categorises people by caste, then it should be deleted, not merged. But then Category:Punjabi people seems to have several 'by caste' categories. Oculi (talk) 14:30, 23 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • You miss my point, I think. One or other of the categories needs to go but that requires merging the content of which ever one goes in so far as the articles within it are not actually biographies. I don't know which would be the preferred cat title. If Category:Punjabi people seems wrong to you then propose something. - Sitush (talk) 14:38, 23 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have no idea. Oculi recategorised some articles around the time they first commented here, which confuses the issue. It is well known that I really dislike this particular venue, its regulars and indeed pretty much the entire categorisation system, so forgive me if I bow out. - Sitush (talk) 13:50, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:21st-century social history[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete all. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:30, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Category:Social history is currently just subcategorized by topic and by country. While there may not be an objection against subcategorizing social history by century, it goes too quick to start intersection categories by century and country right away. Also it is very strange to see that an editor starts building a completely new tree and then leaves it alone after having done less than 0.1% of the required work. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:43, 23 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete -- The one item in the second item is about all sorts of history, some perhaps social, but most not. We have hitherto discouraged 20th/21st century splits. There is now some place for them, but we should not go overboard on this. The one US subcat is well populated and worth having. Peterkingiron (talk) 12:18, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Psychedelics and religion[edit]

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The result of the discussion was:
keep Category:Psychedelics and religion
merge Category:Ayahuasca and religion to Category:Psychedelics and religion and Category:Ayahuasca --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:34, 10 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: upmerge per WP:SMALLCAT, currently only one article. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:30, 23 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: We also have the larger Category:Ayahuasca and religion, maybe some merger of the two if folks agree that ayahuasca qualifies as a psychedelic? Goonsquad LCpl Mulvaney (talk) 10:36, 23 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Portuguese Way[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 09:40, 7 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. One article, little chance of expansion. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 05:07, 23 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • not for Porto but definitely for Pontevedra, Barcelos, Redondela etc. it is; 30K tourists annually staying overnight in a town of 30K makes quite an impression JJ Hantsch 14:27, 1 January 2018 (UTC)jjhantsch
  • That it has lots of visitors isn't a defining characteristic. That a town/city is on a hiking trail may be of interest to you, but other people may be more interested in other aspects of the place (e.g. an event that happens/happened there). DexDor (talk) 07:46, 1 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The town's article is not exclusively about the hiking trail or the participants, but to ignore that level of interaction is inappropriate. Imagine Las Vegas without mentioning the visitors JJ Hantsch 14:27, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

No one here is saying that the trail shouldn't be mentioned (in the article text). DexDor (talk) 15:02, 1 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'm glad we agree. A grouping for all the towns with this same characteristic, and for geographical completeness larger cities on the same trail, would seem logical. JJ Hantsch 16:13, 1 January 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jjhantsch (talkcontribs)

No - that could result in articles about cities being in hundreds of categories for characteristics that are non-defining. DexDor (talk) 21:37, 3 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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