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April 29[edit]

Category:Defunct Southern League (1885–1899) teams[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: Merge Timrollpickering (talk) 20:02, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Maintaining suck a difference between defunct and former teams for a league that folded more than a century ago isn't beneficial. (Especially as of now only two teams exist.) Armbrust The Homunculus 16:21, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support If the league still exists, this distinction makes sense, but not in this case. RevelationDirect (talk) 00:46, 30 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge -- The important thing is that they were members at the time, not whether they survive, which is presumably the basis of the second. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:10, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Organization of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 May 8#Organization of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union

Drainage basins[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: keep. bibliomaniac15 18:12, 8 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I propose to rename these categories to the pattern "X basin", in line with most other categories for river drainage basins. Markussep Talk 12:13, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: the word "River" is sometimes used as disambiguation (which is clearer when it's in parentheses, like the Vantaa example), but it's not part of the name of the river, at least not in these cases. I don't think any confusion about the basin is possible in cases where a city and a river share the same name. Markussep Talk 18:21, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Note - elsewhere 'drainage' was added, in 5 cfds on the same day starting with Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2011_February_4#Category:Congo_basin. Oculi (talk) 23:04, 30 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support River should not be part of the title, but part of the links in the category definition. Dimadick (talk) 16:51, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment, articles and categories should be renamed to "(river)" if "River" is not part of their proper name. But it should start with the article names. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:11, 30 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
You're right, I just started a discussion for that at WT:RIVERS#Article_titles_for_rivers_in_Russia,_Ukraine_and_Belarus. Do you mean that if a river is ambiguous with e.g. a city or a surname and is therefore at "X (river)", the related categories should include "(river)" as well? Markussep Talk 19:05, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per Oculi. Armbrust The Homunculus 19:42, 30 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per Oculi. If any of the articles are renamed at a RM discussion, the categories can be speedily renamed per WP:C2D. But as Oculi notes, the category names should follow their respective article titles ... so no rename withwithout an RM. -BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:37, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
OK, good point, this discussion can be closed then. Depending on the outcome of the discussion at WT:RIVERS, I'll use WP:CFDS then. Is it OK if I list Category:Dnieper River system for speedy rename now, or do I have to wait until this discussion is closed? Markussep Talk 08:05, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • I suppose it's alright to have Category:Dnieper River system on CFDS right now. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:37, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Films featuring hunters[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 May 8#Category:Films featuring hunters

Category:Philadelphia Fever players[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Rename now the RM is sorted Timrollpickering (talk) 20:04, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: To better distinguish from Category:Philadelphia Fever (WPSL) players Fuddle (talk) 01:31, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. GiantSnowman 17:03, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Match article name once RM has been decided. Polite reminder to @Fuddle: to sort out the article location issue before trying to move the related category... GiantSnowman 17:09, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Dungeons & Dragons creatures[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Rename Timrollpickering (talk) 20:05, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per the article Monsters in Dungeons & Dragons as well as List of Advanced Dungeons & Dragons 2nd edition monsters, in both they are referred to as "monsters" rather than creatures, making the current title inaccurate. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 01:22, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support in the spirit of WP:C2D. Please also nominate the subcategory for the same reason. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:04, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support to bring in line with the title of the lead article. oknazevad (talk) 14:29, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support This should limit the scope as well. Dimadick (talk) 16:52, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:British Cycling Hall of Fame inductees[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 15:38, 8 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING (WP:OCAWARD)
The British Cycling Hall of Fame was founded in 2009 and has wall plaques in the Manchester Velodrome (see here). The vast majority of these articles mention the award in passing with others, maybe a fourth don't mention it at all and 3 mention it in the lede so it doesn't seem defining. (In contrast, the Tour de France and Olympics are universally in the intro, if applicable.) We already have the winners listified here in the main article. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:26, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
*RFC There is an open request for comments on proposed changes to WP:OCAWARD. Your input (pro/con/other) is always welcome here. -RD

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Category:DeMolay International Hall of Fame members[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 15:38, 8 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING (WP:OCAWARD and WP:OCASSOC)
DeMolay International is a Masonic youth organization for boys/men aged 12-21. This award is given to men who, decades later, become politicians, astronauts, celebrities or are otherwise prominent. The success of people like Paul Harvey, John Steinbeck and Bill Clinton seems to have little direct connection to this group or Free Masons generally though. The contents of the category are already listified here for any reader interested in the topic. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:26, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
*RFC There is an open request for comments on proposed changes to WP:OCAWARD. Your input (pro/con/other) is always welcome here. -RD

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