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April 5[edit]

Category:Electronic cigarette aerosol carcinogens[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 09:18, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Despite its name, the category does not contain carcinogenic substances in their own right, possibly except Heated tobacco product, and is thus misleading. Brandmeistertalk 17:55, 5 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete No objection to concept but doesn't reflect current contents. RevelationDirect (talk) 16:57, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People executed by arrows[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 07:59, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Not sure what this is supposed to be exactly, executed with a bow and arrow? EchetusXe 17:15, 5 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete -- The death of the one person listed sounds more like an assassination than an execution. The article does not in fact mention how he died. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:03, 5 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:American short story writers of Lebanese descent[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 08:01, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Small, non-notable triple intersection. Both articles is already in appropriate subcategories. TM 14:41, 5 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:American short story writers of Syrian descent[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 08:03, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Small, non-notable triple intersection. Only article is already in appropriate subcategories. TM 14:39, 5 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:American autobiographers of Syrian descent[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 08:05, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This is a small and non-notable triple intersection by nationality, gender, and profession. I nominated it for deletion rather than merger because the subject is already in the appropriate sub-categories. TM 14:28, 5 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:American autobiographers of Jordanian descent[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 08:07, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This is a small and non-notable triple intersection by nationality, gender, and profession. I nominated it for deletion rather than merger because the subject is already in the appropriate sub-categories. TM 14:27, 5 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Indian women biographers[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: upmerge. The other categories suggested will have to be nominated separately; I think individual discussion needs to take place for those specific ones, at least. bibliomaniac15 05:53, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Dual upmerge. This is a non-notable triple intersection by nationality, gender, and profession. TM 14:22, 5 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
User:Place Clichy, I would be happy to support those if you nominated them.--User:Namiba 13:16, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Post-closure notes: the merge to Indian biographers should have been done manually, since all but one of the merged pages were already in a diffusing sub-cat by century. I have also merged the members of both categories to Indian women non-fiction writers. – Fayenatic London 09:43, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Category:North-American Interfraternity Conference[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename both. – Fayenatic London 11:34, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Organization name change in 2018, matching change in name for article. Naraht (talk) 14:09, 5 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note @Naraht: Combined these two nominations. North American Interfraternity Conference is the main article which was boldly moved by the nominator outside of an RM and most of the contents have already been moved. Thank you for bringing this nomination here for consensus; in the future please hold off on moving contents prior to CFD. RevelationDirect (talk) 15:42, 5 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Both The organizations's official web site consistently does not use a hyphen. - RevelationDirect (talk) 15:46, 5 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note Change occured in mid 2018.Naraht (talk) 16:16, 5 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support both, i.e. delete the obsolete hyphenated versions in favor of the non-hyphenated ones, to reflect current convention. @Naraht: your out-of-process move has needlessly delayed this rename. The more appropriate process would have been to rename the article, noting the orthography change in edit comments or on Talk, and then to request speedy under C2D. -- choster (talk) 18:38, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    choster Will keep that in mind. I considered it minor and I had more or less completed the move myself using AWB to move mentions of the organization, the category and the template when the category moves were bulk reverted. (I wonder if marking old and new cats with Underconstruction would have stopped the bulk reversion. After *that*, the only clean way to move it was here.Naraht (talk) 12:36, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
FYI, the bulk reversion was meant to force you here to avoid out of process moves and under construction wouldn't have helped. Doing an WP:RM on the main article followed by a WP:C2D on the categories would have been optimal but that's water under the bridge. Live and learn! RevelationDirect (talk) 01:04, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ok, fair enough, but it still is not a defining characteristic of former members. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:47, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Wars named after non-human animals[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. – Fayenatic London 11:26, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: We don't normally categorize things by characteristics of their name (or one of several names) - some example CFD discussions. This category also has other problems (some of the articles aren't about actual wars, some aren't actually named after animals...). Note: I have listified the category. DexDor (talk) 13:10, 5 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
All right, if such a category goes against established practice but such a list doesn't, I'm fine with deleting the category and keeping the list (thanks for creating it btw). It could be argued that this element of the name's origin is just too insignificant to merit a category, at least that's what I'm getting from previous discussions. It does seem to me the list should be subcategorised from Category:Things named after animals to Category:Lists of things named after animals. Greetings, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 14:50, 5 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The list has been de-prodded by another editor. DexDor (talk) 10:53, 19 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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People from Sheffield[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: keep. Note: five have already been speedily deleted under WP:G7. – Fayenatic London 11:21, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Merge all into Category:People from Sheffield. Someone from Sheffield will usually have lived or gone to school in many sub-areas; being born or having lived in a particular area is not defining; 'from Sheffield' is enough. Several of these are recreations of categories merged at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2009_June_28#Category:People_from_Sheffield_(district). Meadowhead has no article, Longley is a dab page, most have 1 or 2 articles. Oculi (talk) 09:30, 5 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom. Rare are the instances of when a neighbourhood is a defining characteristic.--TM 17:02, 5 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose The present city of Sheffield formerly consisted of a number of distinct townships (including Brightside and Ecclesall), some of which were not in the parish of Sheffield (including Ecclesfield). Some of the categories certainly need merging, but this should not be done wholesale. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:09, 5 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose The editors of the relevant articles thought the places defining. There is a well established pattern of subcategories for cities. Neighbourhoods in cities are just as defining as villages in rural areas. However the Sheffield biographies seem to mention neighbourhoods much less than is usual in other cities. Agree some should be merged, which I will do. Rathfelder (talk) 20:49, 5 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • Being born somewhere is not defining. Most of these are categorised by their place of birth. I myself have lived in 6 of these areas in Sheffield; I am not 'from' any of them. (I was born in Cambridge; I am certainly not from Cambridge as we left when I was 1.) Oculi (talk) 10:58, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      • I agree. I have taken out of these categories a lot of people who left these places as children. Rathfelder (talk) 15:43, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - seems to be standard practice with large cities, especially those which have been expanded through merger of former separate areas. Grutness...wha? 02:57, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • I have not included such areas: Mosborough, Beighton, Stocksbridge. Oculi (talk) 10:58, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      • Almost all the places you have listed were not part of Sheffield until after the Industrial Revolution at the earliest, and less than 100 years ago in one or two cases. Grutness...wha? 15:21, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • If I understand correctly, most of these places became part of Sheffield in 1843. Then let's move all articles of people born since to the Sheffield category. This will empty most of these categories, I guess. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:25, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • The same could be said of many cities. Cities expand and engulf the surrounding villages. But I cant see why we would treat Sheffield differently to all the other cities and their component districts. Rathfelder (talk) 22:19, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • I do not disagree with that. The solution that I proposed should apply to all cities. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:17, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • If you really want to remove all the categories for people from suburbs of cities across the world that needs a much wider discussion. Rathfelder (talk) 09:57, 21 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sheffield is probably large enough that it makes sense to at least have some suburbs with people from categories for example Category:People from Ecclesfield has 25 articles and is currently a CP. The problem indeed might be that there aren't enough people to merit a category for some or boundaries are hard to define. There are some boundaries listed here but note that since 1974 the former CB has been unparished so only ward boundaries exist and they tend not to be stable for long. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:07, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Commercial spaceflight[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus to merge (nor, for that matter, to reverse the hierarchy).– Fayenatic London 11:16, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The commercial spaceflight and private spaceflight are same thing. Soumyabrata stay at home wash your hands to protect from coronavirus 09:15, 5 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:SpaceX suborbital prototype rockets[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename. – Fayenatic London 11:11, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Proposing a scope change to include all prototype vehicles of SpaceX rather than the suborbital prototype rockets of SpaceX. Soumyabrata stay at home wash your hands to protect from coronavirus 09:08, 5 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Years of the 21st century in Dubai[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge/delete per expanded nom (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 08:20, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Pointless intermediary category. It currently contains only one article, but even if it has the full set it would still serve no purpose. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 20:01, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Marcocapelle (talk) 07:57, 5 April 2020 (UTC) [reply]
Relisting comment the nomination has been expanded per below. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:57, 5 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Steamboats built at Dockton, Washington[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. – Fayenatic London 11:05, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:OCLOCATION
There are no other city of construction subcategories under Category:Steamboats which would still be fine if these two locations were known for specifically building steamships. Neither one was though: Dockton had one significant shipbuilder who built a variety of types of ships and Tacoma was a major shipbuilding center where, again, a variety of ship types were built. This doesn't seem like a viable category tree to start because steamboat construction was very decentralized and we have articles on steamboats built in dozens of cities/towns just in Washington state alone. The Dockton, Washington article already listifies the first category and the second category will remain categorized under Tacoma. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:18, 5 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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