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Category:German emigrants to Mandatory Palestine[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was: keep. bibliomaniac 1 5 03:22, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:German emigrants to Mandatory Palestine to Category:Jewish emigrants from Germany to Mandatory Palestine‎

Nominator's rationale: They are all Jewish, except possibly one, (Orna Porat), depending how you define Jewish Rathfelder (talk) 19:31, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment, none of the sibling categories in Category:Immigrants to Mandatory Palestine has a subcategory similar to as proposed. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:51, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

But I suspect pretty much all of them, except Category:Arab emigrants to Mandatory Palestine were Jewish. Would it be sensible to rename all of them? Being Jewish was clearly pretty defining in this context. Rathfelder (talk) 20:50, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It would initially be a matter of splitting rather than renaming, leading to very poorly populated parent categories for non-Jewish people, like in this case for Orna Porat. I doubt if that is very helpful. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:39, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Triple intersections are a bad idea; quadruple intersections are even worse. Laurel Lodged (talk) 07:33, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. There were plenty of non-Jewish German emigrants to Palestine, most notably the Templers, and also Lutherans mentioned in articles Anglican-German Bishopric in Jerusalem and Evangelical Lutheran Church in Jordan and the Holy Land. Place Clichy (talk) 16:59, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The ethnicity of immigrants is less important than their state of origin. Dimadick (talk) 07:44, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Mandatory Palestine only existed between 1920 and 1948. In that period Jewish migration was pretty defining. Rathfelder (talk) 21:04, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - leave Orna Porat and that is it; if not populated then delete. Proposed name change is not conventional.GreyShark (dibra) 14:28, 1 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The "German" here is referring to German nationality. Whether or not someone views German Jews as "German" or not (in whatever segregationist racial, ethnic, or cultural sense they may mean), is irrelevant. What is pertinent is nationality, the migration from one state to another state, not ethnicity or religion. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 18:02, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
This is to match the well established Category:Jewish emigrants from Nazi Germany to Mandatory Palestine but for people who left before or after the Nazi period. Rathfelder (talk) 23:00, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:Gender-critical Wikipedians[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 September 16#Category:Gender-critical Wikipedians