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December 25[edit]

Category:American football teams in Inglewood, California[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 07:02, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Small category. Merge to Sports teams in Inglewood, California, American football in Inglewood, California, and American football teams in California. –Aidan721 (talk) 22:04, 25 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Sports teams in Aurora, Illinois[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 07:03, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Dual merge to Sports teams in Illinois and Sports in Aurora, Illinois. –Aidan721 (talk) 21:59, 25 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Rugby union teams in New Orleans[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 07:03, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Dual merge to Rugby union teams in Louisiana, Sports teams in New Orleans. –Aidan721 (talk) 21:39, 25 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Rugby union teams in Baton Rouge, Louisiana[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 07:04, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Dual merge to Rugby union teams in Louisiana and Sports teams in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. –Aidan721 (talk) 21:38, 25 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Sports teams in Abbeville, Louisiana[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 07:04, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Dual merge to Professional baseball teams in Louisiana and Abbeville, Louisiana. –Aidan721 (talk) 21:29, 25 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Sports teams in Ruston, Louisiana[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 07:04, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Dual merge to Sports teams in Louisiana and Sports in CITY, Louisiana. –Aidan721 (talk) 21:22, 25 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Romanians of Serbia[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 07:05, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: See parent article Romanians in Serbia (recently moved from Romanians of Serbia). Super Ψ Dro 20:06, 25 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Ice hockey players by city[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 January 2#Ice hockey players by city

Category:Ice hockey teams in Savannah, Georgia[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 07:07, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: One page. Merge to applicable parent categories. –Aidan721 (talk) 13:05, 25 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Scholars under the Almoravid dynasty[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 07:08, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:12, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Writers includes poets and religious leaders who may or may not have been scholars. I think I'd rather just keep the category layers as they are. I have moved a couple of people down from People to Scholars. – Fayenatic London 13:43, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep per Fayenatic london; it seems like leaving a category with 3 entries is less messy than any other alternative. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:39, 26 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Male YouTubers[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 07:10, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:OCEGRS, trivial intersection between occupation and gender. The Russian subcategory should be merged rather than deleted, it is not a non-diffusing category. This is entirely comparable to this other discussion which is still open. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:09, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Meanwhile the other discussion has been closed as "delete". Marcocapelle (talk) 19:28, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Merge/rename into a category that removes "male"—looking at Category:Men by nationality and occupation, there are plenty of categories with the same criteria, though I think a combination category of ethnicity/gender is unneeded. For example, Category:American male YouTubers could be replaced by Category:American YouTubers/Category:Male YouTubers; for this reason, I oppose deleting Category: Male YouTubers specifically. DecafPotato (talk) 19:29, 13 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all as nominated. Do not think YouTubers should be classified by gender. SnowFire (talk) 03:05, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment Curious why Category:Female YouTubers and all of its subcategories wasn't also nominated here. If there is a female/women category, there should be a male/men category. We learned that lesson years ago, the hard way. Liz Read! Talk! 20:49, 26 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Category:Women by occupation (128) and Category:men by occupation (23) disagree. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:39, 26 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @Pppery: Please see Male as norm for an encyclopedic description of the subject. Essentially, categorizing male YouTubers but not female YouTubers is like saying that male should be interpreted as "default" and female as "derivative", rather than both being equal—an example of gender bias on Wikipedia that people have been trying to correct for a long time now.
    For the record, Categories Women by occupation and Men by occupation should be much closer in size to each other. DecafPotato (talk) 00:55, 27 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • There is simply more literature about women in specific occupations than about men in specific occupations. Wikipedia just follows the real world. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:51, 27 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Male is not the default—categorize both. This has historically been a large issue: see [1] (paywalled) and [2]. If we end up deleting the "male YouTubers" category, which it looks like we probably will, I cannot stress enough that we must delete Category:Female YouTubers as well. DecafPotato (talk) 22:10, 27 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • That is not what WP:CATGENDER says. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:25, 28 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    In regards to an example in which a balanced set of categories are not needed, it says:
    As another example, a female heads of government category is valid as a topic of special encyclopedic interest, though it does not need to be balanced directly against a "Male heads of government" category, as historically the vast majority of political leaders have been male. Both male and female heads of government should continue to be filed in the appropriate gender-neutral role category (e.g. Presidents, Monarchs, Prime Ministers, Governors General). Do not create separate categories for male and female occupants of the same position, such as "Male Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom" vs. "Female Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom".
    Is there any evidence suggesting the "vast majority" of content creators are male? DecafPotato (talk) 21:53, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Representatives of the Alba Iulia National Assembly[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 07:10, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The members of the Great National Assembly of Alba Iulia were called "delegates", not "representatives", see the article for more info. Super Ψ Dro 13:04, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Q150[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 07:11, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category layer with just the main article and a subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:09, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. I have added a link in the main article to the sub-cat. – Fayenatic London 13:47, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Members of the Al-Mutairi tribe[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 07:12, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete, no evidence is provided that the two people in this category belong to this tribe. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:07, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete. Mutayr exists as an article on the tribe, and Al-Mutairi as a list of people with the name. Both member articles are now listed at the latter page. – Fayenatic London 18:07, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete per nom. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:39, 26 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete -- This comes close to categorisation by shared surname. Mutayr suggests that they all share a common male ancestor, but this is likely to be so long ago as not to provide a good basis for a category. Peterkingiron (talk) 15:09, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Scholars of Islam[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 January 2#Scholars of Islam

Category:Modes of production[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 January 2#Category:Modes of production