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September 14[edit]

Category:People of the Arab world[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 13:25, 22 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: There was no consensus to create this hierarchy at the recent Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 August 23#Purging nationality categories from Arab people. It was created by Puddefoot (talk · contribs) who was globally locked by Mykola7 for long-term abuse, see Special:CentralAuth/Puddefoot; their sock Yourexits (talk · contribs) which added to this category is now also blocked. – Fayenatic London 08:03, 6 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have just noticed that the creator apologised for creating the category without reference to the previous CFD here, but I don't think that provides ground for speedy reverting. – Fayenatic London 08:11, 6 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Too bad there was no consensus in the previous discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:05, 6 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    • Well, this CFD provides another opportunity to make a case for it, if there is any scope to agree the use of this hierarchy after all. – Fayenatic London 22:00, 6 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reverse merge, the nationality subcategories also contain non-Arabs so Category:Arab people is false advertising. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:47, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge per nom, on purely procedural grounds that this category is a duplicate of the merge target. My support for this nomination should not be regarded as me accepting the legitimacy of mixing up nationalities and ethnicities. I still think nationalities do not belong in the ethnicity tree, and agree with Marcocapelle that it's too bad no consensus was reached on that point. I think we should not categorise millions of Iraqi Kurds etc. as "Arabs" just because most Iraqis are native speakers of Arabic, but until we revisit that question, I procedurally accept the status quo. NLeeuw (talk) 17:47, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Merge or reverse merge?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 21:04, 14 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Merge Reverse will not address the issue in hand. Dympies (talk) 05:25, 16 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:Thirteenth Tsardom in fiction[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: speedy delete (WP:G5). (non-admin closure) CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 13:26, 22 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: See above discussion on Category:Thirteenth Tsardom this is not the right translation of the title Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 17:17, 14 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Thirteenth Tsardom[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: procedural close, a discussion about this category already started two days ago at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_September_12#Category:Thirteenth_Tsardom (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 20:24, 14 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Article is called Faraway Tsardom, Thirteenth Tsardom is a removed mistranslation. Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 17:16, 14 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:Carnivals in Malta[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 13:26, 22 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Both sharing the same subject, just a spelling difference. Fabe56 (talk) 14:31, 27 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkltalk 21:20, 6 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 16:08, 14 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: wasn't tagged. @Fabe56, I assume this was supposed to be a rename, not merge discussion, as Category:Carnivals of Malta doesn't exist and never has? CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 16:11, 14 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Immigrant languages of the United States[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: keep. No prejudice against a rename discussion. (non-admin closure) CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 13:27, 22 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Not defining Mason (talk) 04:45, 14 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose, it is defining for the subcategories and articles that are in this category. I am open to renaming, insofar the current category name is not clear enough about what it contains. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:49, 14 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Very clearly defining of the child categories. Also open to renaming if people belive there is a better alternative.★Trekker (talk) 11:47, 14 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    That's fair. I think that renaming would be *really* helpful as I'm struggling to succinctly articulate the category. Mason (talk) 13:08, 14 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:American poetry in immigrant languages[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge. Unopposed. Undeletion can be requested at WP:REFUND. (non-admin closure) CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 13:28, 22 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Not defining Mason (talk) 04:44, 14 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:American literature in immigrant languages[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 September 22#Category:American literature in immigrant languages