Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2024 January 23

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23 January 2024[edit]

The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it.
Embassy of the United States, Managua (talk|edit|history|logs|links|watch) (XfD|restore)

2 delete, 1 keep, and 2 merge !votes does not a merge close make. It's hard to say this discussion came to a consensus, or that any argument can be easily discounted. It is probably a textbook example of a forced-compromise supervote - to quote the closer, "Merge was chosen by me as the closer as a valid ATD". A (first) relist would have been in order here to clarify community consensus. Pilaz (talk) 14:00, 23 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Endorse. There was a single !vote for Keep - the appellant's. This view rested, at least in part, on a single event related the article's topic, an event that isn't notable enough for its own article, and therefore cannot, by itself, support a standalone article about the embassy. The other views were evenly split between Merge and Delete. While relisting may have solicited more opinions, I doubt we'd see enough Keep views to turn that from a single outlier into the consensus. In weighing between the Merge and the Delete views, the closing admin correctly picked the obvious ATD. Owen× 15:33, 23 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Endorse there was consensus to not keep (one well-refuted "keep" vote against four delete/ATD votes). The close was in no way, shape, or form a supervote. When there is a split between delete and an ATD (in this case two merge, one delete which stated merge was an acceptable ATD, and one delete with no opinion on merging), the ATD is used in order to allow for the most community involvement on covering a topic adequately. Frank Anchor 16:13, 23 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Endorse accurate reading of the debate. Clear consensus not to keep, and WP:ATD recommends looking at alternatives where possible. Stifle (talk) 16:48, 23 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Endorse as closer, rather than this being a "textbook example of a forced-compromise supervote" as the nominator claims, I feel this is a case of correctly assessing consensus as not to retain an article (combining deletion and merge contributions) and picking 'merge' as an alternative to deletion. I had already advised the editor of this fact when they enquired. Daniel (talk) 17:32, 23 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Endorse. 2 delete, 1 keep, and 2 merge !votes given that none of the arguments can be easily discounted precisely make for a merge close, because delete !votes are cognate with and "convertible to" merge !votes, due to WP:ATD.—Alalch E. 16:40, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Endorse - I respectfully disagree with the appellant, and say that 2 delete, 1 keep, and 2 merge !votes is a reasonable rough consensus to merge. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:37, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it.