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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on May 9, 2020.

CJ Thorpe[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete with the suggestion that disambiguation may be needed in future if substantial mentions of any of these potential targets actually come to exist on en-wiki. As it stands there does not appear to be enough content at any of the targets to actually satisfy any potential reader, with the non-trivial number of borderline-notable CJ Thorpes, the rough consensus here is to avoid pretending we actually have worthwhile coverage of any of them. The search results may be the best option. ~ mazca talk 22:57, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned at target article. OcelotCreeper (talk) 17:26, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Disambiguate (1st choice), since this term is ambiguous (a Google search on the name reveals the first results are for a Penn State University football player, but I don't know if he's notable enough for an article, and it could also refer to the bassist of Bombay Monkey or possibly a writer of The Quietus (in which case his name is CJ Thorpe-Tracey) mentioned at Making a New World#Present Day), weak retarget to Bombay Monkey as an {{R from member}} (2nd choice; this is its bassist's name), super weak retarget to Star Wars (film)#Development (3rd choice; a character by that name is mentioned there as the narrator of an early draft titled Journal of the Whillis), or delete (4th choice) if none of these work. On a side note, I had a classmate by that name back in high school. Regards, SONIC678 18:06, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget to Bombay Monkey per Sonic, as the ionly substantive mention in enwiki. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 14:46, 26 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete as only a mention in the Bombay Monkey article, hardly any mention at Star Wars or the author. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 21:27, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, per nom and AngusWOOF. CycloneYoris talk! 23:48, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Teletherapy[edit]

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Toyota 89CV[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. In the absence of significant information at the current or suggested targets, participants feel a redlink to encourage article creation is preferred. ~ mazca talk 23:02, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This appears to be the name of a racecar that currently has no article. Propose retarget to Toyota 88C-V until (or if) an article is created. TheAwesomeHwyh 21:26, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete - According to WP:REDIRECT and WP:REDLINK, if the article does not exist yet then we should not have a redirect to some place that doesn't describe it just to avoid a red link. Instead, the red link provides hints to potential editors that here is something that they can create with their knowledge of the subject. Since the redirect to Toyota doesn't actually tell you anything about the race car, the current redirect is actually giving you no information about it and hiding the invitation to write a proper article for it.  Stepho  talk  22:56, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete for now. At this time, there's no good place to point this. If we had an article on the car, the correct title would be Toyota 89C-V. - Eureka Lott 03:41, 11 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Deep Depression[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Depression. (non-admin closure) feminist | wear a mask, protect everyone 04:08, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure what to do with this one. Mentioned at target article, but this seems to refer to Major depressive disorder and similar topics as much or more than it does for hurricanes. Hog Farm (talk) 16:19, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Rosguill talk 21:25, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget both to DAB page Depression. The preceding discussion shows that the expression is ambiguous. It would be a very bad idea to have different targets for different capitalisations, which would land users randomly on different pages. Narky Blert (talk) 08:14, 10 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget both to Depression DAB per Narky Blert. Radically different targets for different normal capitalisations are worth avoiding, and this really seems to be reasonably used for a substantial version of either common meaning of "depression". ~ mazca talk 23:00, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget both to Depression per Narky and mazca. signed, Rosguill talk 23:03, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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NeoCon[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Neoconservatism. signed, Rosguill talk 22:56, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Is a trade fair that doesn't even have its own article a more plausible search term than neoconservatism? pbp 21:24, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Retarget to neoconservatism. neocon already redirects to neoconservatism, and NeoCon could be a hypothetical alternate capitalization of the clipping for neoconservatism. Although this specific capitalization seems to be rare for neoconservatism specifically (after a brief Google search), it does receive some daily views (all pageviews mentioned are sourced from the Wikimedia Foundation Toolforge Pageviews Tool). Since January 2020, the redirect has received about 7 views per day, with no noticeable increase between March 17-20, 2020, which was the date range of NeoCon 2020's postponement and cancellation that received a fair amount of press (here, here, and here, for example). If most users were using the NeoCon redirect for the event, one would likely expect an increase during that time, although there does not seem to be any. Kʜᴜ'ʜᴀᴍɢᴀʙᴀ Kɪᴛᴀᴘ (parlez ici) 13:29, 10 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget It appears to be a plausible contraction of neoconservatism and page views show that it is beating searched. Also, based on the fact that during the time the trade show was announced to be cancelled there was no change in page views it strongly indicates that it’s not the trade show that people typing the term meoVon are looking for.--69.157.252.96 (talk) 07:07, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget per the above and amend the hatnote at neoconservatism accordingly. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 21:30, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Supermarket News[edit]

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Akira Fubuki[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete -- JHunterJ (talk) 13:49, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

While there originally was an entry for Akira Fubuki at the target disambiguation page, the entry was simply circularly linked to this redirect, and does not belong on that page per WP:DABRED. I would suggest deletion. signed, Rosguill talk 20:49, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nominator. Not mentioned anywhere in English Wikipedia, and her Japanese Wikipedia article provides no evidence of notability. (NSFW, don't Google her name.) 59.149.124.29 (talk) 03:54, 10 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. Not mentioned in English WP. Circular redirects anywhere are a confounded nuisance, and ones to DAB page something more than that. Narky Blert (talk) 08:17, 10 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Li Changgeng[edit]

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Direxion[edit]

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The result of the discussion was Procedural close I'm closing this despite being involved, as due to the creation of an article at this redirect, any discussion of the redirect is moot. signed, Rosguill talk 22:55, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned at the target, I would suggest deletion. I see that this was originally created as an article and then converted to a redirect by the same editor 5 minutes later; if need be, we can procedurally close this discussion, restore the article, and proceed to an AfD discussion. signed, Rosguill talk 20:23, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Why do you think deleting this would be beneficial? Benjamin (talk) 22:00, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
When a reader types the name of a company into Wikipedia's search bar, they should get some explicit information about that company, not be sent to an article on a general class of products that doesn't mention the company at all. At best this leaves the reader, who is probably coming to Wikipedia because they know little about the company and need an introduction from the very basics, to guess that the company does some kind of business related to this product (but what kind of business? provider? commentator? auditor?). At worst this leads to mistaken inferences (e.g. "the company offers only this type of product and no others"). Search results (Special:Search/~Direxion) are always more informative than such a redirect. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 07:28, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Pribyslavitz[edit]

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10 Things You Need to Know About Losing Weight[edit]

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HMS Javelin (F12)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 22:53, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Redirects to HMS Kashmir, but there's no indication, either in that article or in the top google results, that the Kashmir was ever named Javelin at any time, or that any such entity as "HMS Javelin F12" ever existed.

There's another Javelin (HMS Javelin (F61)), and "HMS Javelin" alone redirects to her.

It's a problem because searching on "HMS Javelin" brings up both the real Javelin and this redirect to Kashmir in the search results, and its confusing. If and when sourced material is written into the article showing that the Kashmire was ever named Javelin, then this redirect can be recreated, and possibly HMS Javelin made into a disambig page. Herostratus (talk) 18:08, 9 May 2020 (UTC) Herostratus (talk) 18:08, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete I believe that the two ships swapped names while under construction, but I don't enough of a possibility of confusing the two to warrant a redirect.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 19:34, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. In any case, a redirect to an article that doesn't then explain why you're there is confusing. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:20, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Fooball[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 14:22, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Implausible typo - see this and this. CrazyBoy826 (talk) 17:13, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Update: this could easily be confused between Football, Foosball, and Gooball. CrazyBoy826 (talk | contribs) 21:15, 11 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Or is it “im-pausable”? However, the linked discussions were about its use in disambiguators and other context while this is the single word itself. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 20:07, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. GiantSnowman 15:23, 10 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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⋾[edit]

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Planck rotational inertia[edit]

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The result of the discussion was already speedily deleted. (non-admin closure) 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 17:09, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Implausible redirects created by Ahri6279 who is globally blocked CrazyBoy826 (talk) 17:01, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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V*[edit]

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Ford[edit]

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The result of the discussion was procedural close. Wrong forum: this is a move request. - Eureka Lott 17:01, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A common last name and plenty of notable people with this last name including Rob Ford and Gerald Ford 🌸 1.Ayana 🌸 (talk) 16:31, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Please review two previous move requests at Talk:Ford (disambiguation) – wbm1058 (talk) 02:56, 11 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Anime and Manga[edit]

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4-sphere[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. No prejudice against refining ~ Amory (u • t • c) 14:24, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Either refine to the section N-sphere#Specific spheres or retarget to Five-dimensional space#Hypersphere. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 14:42, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • My preference goes to N-sphere#Specific spheres as the new target. Pichpich (talk) 14:45, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep as it is, per WP:LEAST: A reader should not be surprised by the replacement of 4 by N, but most readers may be surprised to not getting the definition of a 4-sphere, and getting instead a technical specific property (there is no definition in the first proposed target; the second proposed target contains a definition, but it does not apply to 4-spheres that are not embedded in the five-dimensional space). D.Lazard (talk) 16:20, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep as is. Like D.Lazard, I think the current target is less confusing that the proposed alternative. XOR'easter (talk) 18:08, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, otherwise Retarget to N-sphere#Specific spheres: It should definitely point to the N-sphere article instead of the 5-dimensional space article, since the former has much more information relevant to the properties of the 4-sphere (namely properties that are true for all n-spheres). Ambivalent about whether it should point at the section, with a slight preference for the general article per D.Lazard. — MarkH21talk 18:22, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Jaime ellis[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete per WP:CSD#G10 King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 19:36, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

WP:R#DELETE nonsense, unsure what this means or how it relates to the target. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 11:08, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete - it looks like an indirect attack page.Ingratis (talk) 11:28, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete there is Jamie Ellis, but I think retargeting there is a bad idea, given the wrong capitalisation, different spelling, and the attack that would remain in the history. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 11:58, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete implausible typo and capitalisation error. CrazyBoy826 (talk) 23:41, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Tagal, Indonesia[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete -- JHunterJ (talk) 13:47, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know if "Tagal" is a common misspelling for the Indonesian place (Tegal city or related Tegal Regency). If it is then Tagal, Indonesia can be kept. Tagal, Indonesia (disambiguation), however, serves no purpose. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:07, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The Samsung Group[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) feminist | wear a mask; protect everyone 04:58, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Unlikely search term, we don't have similar formatted redirects like The Microsoft Corporation, The Google Inc., The Apple Inc, etc. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 02:28, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Cortirion[edit]

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. signed, Rosguill talk 08:36, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in target article, delete unless justification and/or mention is provided. Hog Farm (talk) 18:25, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It's an early name for Valinor#Tirion, so we could have a mention there if anyone thinks it worthwhile. Apparently it turned into the real town of Warwick. Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:41, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Rosguill talk 20:59, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Happineſs[edit]

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