Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Wikipedia proposals
The following discussions are requested to have community-wide attention:
Having a parameter for "criminal_charges" is confusing for the following reasons:
It seems "criminal_convictions" is what the parameter should be. Consider, for example, Kevin Spacey: He was charged with 11 crimes. Three of them were dismissed during the trial. He was found not-guilty by the jury of the remaining nine. Listing "charges" on his Infobox could be potentially misleading to readers. Another example would be Michael Jackson. Again he was charged with several counts of child molestation, but never found guilty. Whatever you believe of his guilt, why would we list those charges in his Infobox profile? (Also, if the person has notable crimes, wouldn't Infobox_criminal be a better fit anyway? Is there an argument not to have criminal parameters at all?) 2A00:23EE:2848:15B0:E196:F555:C031:6D7C (talk) 01:19, 13 May 2024 (UTC) |
Template talk:Infobox criminal
The guideline currently states that the "criminal_charges" parameter is "What the criminal is accused of (note that this is different from what the criminal is -- later -- convicted of)". Obviously the person can't be a criminal if they've only been accused of a crime, or even charged with one. However this Infobox seems to be restricted to use with notable convicted criminals. So this would imply that "criminal_charges" in this case relates solely to crimes they are currently wanted for (ie. which they have not been tried for yet).
I think there's a chance this parameter could be used to list charges that did not lead to convictions after being processed in the legal system (either because they were dropped, dismissed or otherwise found not-guilty). A short note could help clarify the correct use cases: "What the criminal is currently wanted to be tried for. Do not list charges that were dropped, dismissed or which went to trial and did not lead to conviction." 2A00:23EE:2848:15B0:E196:F555:C031:6D7C (talk) 00:43, 13 May 2024 (UTC) |
With the |birth_place= parameter having the corresponding |birth_date= parameter and the |death_place= parameter having the corresponding |death_date= parameter, do you agree to have the |burial_place= parameter given the corresponding |burial_date= parameter? 4theloveofallthings (talk) 15:14, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
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Wikipedia talk:Missing Wikipedians
This page is currently hitting the post-expand limit, meaning that the templates used to display the missing Wikipedians' names stop working midway through the Wsection. This is resulting in the editors' names not being displayed, and instead being replaced with (e.g.) Template:User2. I therefore think this page should be split, but I'm not quite sure what the best way of doing it would be. A few possible ideas that came to my mind were:
I welcome any feedback and opinions on this proposal, as well as other ideas for how best to split this page. All the best, —a smart kitten[meow] RFC tag added 13:07, 3 May 2024 (UTC) |