Wikipedia talk:Excerpts

Grant to improve and spread excerpts

Hi! I just requested a grant to improve and spread excerpts in the English Wikipedia and also five other wikis. If anyone is interested and would like to leave a comment in the grant's page, it would be most welcome. Thanks! Sophivorus (talk) 21:54, 13 December 2019 (UTC)

Excerpt trees

Hmm, that's interesting. Is there a specific utility you hope for this visualization tool to have? It appears that in most cases, the excerpts themselves aren't forming the tree since, just the articles. E.g. per the image, there's no content from ontology making its way to Philosophy, since the part of Metaphysics being excerpted to Philosophy is different than the part of Metaphysics receiving an excerpt from Ontology. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 19:58, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

@Sdkb: The Philosophy example is fictitious, it's a translation from the Spanish Wikipedia where it's real. The only real example (so far) on the English Wikipedia would be the excerpt tree of the COVID-19 pandemic, though a couple more seem to be forming on environmental issues and on the 2020 United States presidential election (see Category:Articles with excerpts). As to the utility of the visualization, it's meant to help editors get a more global view of what's done and what can be done. It helps me a lot to develop excerpt trees on the Spanish Wikipedia, so I figure it can help others. Sophivorus (talk) 21:57, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Conflict with template guidance

I note the use of excerpts conflicts with Wikipedia:Template namespace#Guidelines which says "Templates should not normally be used to store article text". {{Excerpt}} doesn't store the text in a template per se, but it seems that guideline should be updated to mention this practice as an exception, if there is consensus to do so. -- Beland (talk) 18:48, 3 August 2020 (UTC)