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July 9[edit]

Category:Martial arts in fiction[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 13:09, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Make category more defining, per WP:NONDEF. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 22:18, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support in principle as a category name phrased more clearly as based on a defining characteristic. Though I am unsure if it should be Category:Martial arts fiction or Category:Fiction about martial arts and likewise for the subcats. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:52, 10 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Based on the article List of ninja films, rather than List of films about ninja, the other categories should be named the same way. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 14:41, 10 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - I am somewhat concerned about the way these are being renamed (sometimes speedily) and re-scoped. Category:Martial arts in fiction is wider than Category:Martial arts fiction; 'fictional martial artists' are 'in fiction' but not 'fiction'. The comparison between a topic category (eg Category:Film) and a set category (eg Category:Films) springs to mind. Oculi (talk) 11:41, 12 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Categories have to be defining. If character categories do not fit in the new categories, perhaps they should be removed from the new categories, which should only contain examples of fiction, not the characters therein. After all, they are members of "fiction by topic", and there's a separate parent category "elements of fiction". ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 05:06, 18 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename if it is not significant enough to the work to justifiy the target names, it is not significant enough to categorize by. We should not be categorizing by every scene in a movie, only ones that define the work as a whole.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:34, 19 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:Water transport in fiction[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 13:11, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: What fiction defined by being about water transport would not qualify as nautical fiction? Since there is a full overlap, this category should be combined with the defining one, if there is anything to combine. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 21:11, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • There were two articles in the nominated category but I moved them to subcategories. I guess that makes the question moot, there are no longer articles to be categorized individually. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:06, 16 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge per nom. The first one sounds more like a bachelor's degree thesis than a category. JBchrch talk 11:40, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:Family in fiction[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: rename and containerise. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 13:13, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEF. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 17:34, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support in principle as a category name phrased more clearly as based on a defining characteristic. The category should also be containerized, otherwise almost every article about fiction might be added. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:57, 10 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Not sure about this change, families can be in fiction (in fact, families figure somewhat in many books of fiction) without being ABOUT those families. But "Family in fiction" seems too broad to be useful as a category. Liz Read! Talk! 20:48, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:Origami in fiction[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 13:14, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEF. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 17:32, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:Mosby's Operations in Northern Virginia[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 August 7#Category:Mosby's Operations in Northern Virginia

Category:Blood in fiction[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 13:14, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: "Fiction that uses blood as a plot element" is not defining, nor is it likely that it can be made so by renaming this category. As something that is intrinsically not defining for works of fiction, this category should be deleted. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 11:15, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. Many articles are already in a dark fantasy, horror or paranormal category, more appropriately so. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:45, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete blood as a plot element is not a defining part of fiction period.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:35, 19 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:Regency in fiction[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 August 7#Category:Regency in fiction

Azines[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 August 12#Azines

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