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November 25[edit]

Category:Horses in mythology[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 December 3#Category:Horses in mythology

Category:Sexual affairs in the Evangelical Church[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 December 3#Category:Sexual affairs in the Evangelical Church

More Eton College categories[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: upmerge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 08:28, 3 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Rationale - following the precedent at 2022 November 6#Category:Head Masters of Eton College educated at Eton. Similar recent upmerges: 2022 November 3#Category:Royalty educated at Eton College, 2022 October 26#Category:Racehorse trainers educated at Eton College and 2022 October 27#Harrow School. (All the above were created and populated by user:Rathfelder.) Oculi (talk) 22:53, 25 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Soviet Ukrainians[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 08:33, 3 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, the category was created as a result of this earlier discussion, but it seems to coincide with an older existing category. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:37, 25 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Peterkingiron and 67kevlar: pinging contributors to previous discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:06, 26 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support That is probably a good solution, but it may be necessary to purge those who always lived in Russia, but happened to have a Ukrainian parent, without having Ukrainian as an internal nationality within USSR. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:26, 27 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Tension (hardcore band)[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 08:35, 3 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: With only one subcategory with two articles (and a redirect), this group doesn't need an eponymous category. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 21:32, 25 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Independence League[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 08:40, 3 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCATAidan721 (talk) 16:10, 17 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment The league exists, but it doesn't have a Wikipedia article. When I google "Independence League", the first result is Independence League Baseball, which is apparently the name they settled on after their initial announcement. -- Pemilligan (talk) 00:58, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Per WP:SMALLCAT, I believe baseball league categories "are part of a large overall accepted sub-categorization scheme" and that this category "does have realistic potential for growth" in that the league and seven of its eight teams lack articles presently. -- Pemilligan (talk) 01:16, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support but merge to parent categories. The smallcat exception rule does not apply here, all parent categories contain articles directly in it so there is no large overall accepted sub-categorization scheme. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:56, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Is it part of the definition of a sub-categorization scheme that parent categories don't contain articles? Where is this definition? It's something I haven't heard of before. -- Pemilligan (talk) 18:09, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • The smallcat exception rule does not refer to any sort of subcategorization but only to large established schemes. By implication you would then have no articles in the parent category. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:57, 19 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Is there more to "by implication" than your own reasoning? It sounds more like an opinion than a definition. -- Pemilligan (talk) 00:11, 21 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Large" is not a matter of opinion and does not require a definition. 10 subcategories versus 57 stand-alone articles is certainly not large. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:30, 21 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Large" was not the question; "By implication you would then have no articles in the parent category" is what I'm asking about. I don't draw the inference that you do. That sounds like your opinion. -- Pemilligan (talk) 18:34, 21 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • This is hairsplitting. The question at stake is whether a large established scheme applies. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:52, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment The only current article is for a team in the league, while all the parent categories are for leagues, so wouldn't "merge to parent categories" just mean "delete"? -- Pemilligan (talk) 18:09, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • You are right, I will strike my earlier merge comment. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:15, 19 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkltalk 20:58, 25 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete -- The team listed is an amateur team, so that it ought not to have an article. That article should be deleted, which will leave this empty. PLease AFD the article. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:29, 27 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Why shouldn't an amateur baseball team have an article? And would you delete the other roughly 200 such articles? -- Pemilligan (talk) 02:39, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Governors of Egypt[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: split (to Category:Governors of governorates of Egypt). (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 08:47, 3 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: split, the larger part of subcategories does not concern governors of the whole of Egypt but of governorates. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:43, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: second target?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkltalk 21:12, 17 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • With the alternative, the names of the categories would become too similar. I still prefer the original nomination for that reason. Marcocapelle (talk) 23:10, 17 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkltalk 20:46, 25 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:Bay Area Rationalists[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 08:43, 3 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: There doesn't appear to be a standalone article on it. Bay Area Rationalism redirects to LessWrong, but there's no mention of it in the article. Brandmeistertalk 15:44, 25 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Star Magic Batch 1-21[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 December 3#Category:Star Magic Batch 1-21

Category:American settlers[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 08:45, 3 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: To match the norm established at Category:Settlers, i.e. Category:Settlers of Canada and Category:Settlers of Australia. User:Namiba 14:10, 25 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Vancity[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 08:45, 3 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete per WP:SMALLCAT, only two articles in the category. They are directly interlinked. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:51, 25 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete -- The content is an article on a Credit Union, with a bio of a director. This is not enough to make a useful category. Vancity is well categorised, so that no merger is needed. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:34, 27 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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