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November 27[edit]

Category:Singlechart usages[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 20:09, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming:

Nominator's rationale: See Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 November 9#Category:Singlechart called without song. Space between the words "Single" and "chart" since the template was renamed {{Single chart}}. Steel1943 (talk) 22:31, 27 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom and previous discussion. Will be happy to help with editing {{Single chart}} to apply this; ping me if needed. --Muhandes (talk) 08:40, 28 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom and previous discussion. Let's get this consistency started. ResPM (T🔈🎵C) 12:16, 28 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. Although I've been away for so long I hardly remember how to edit, I used to work with these things a lot and the proposal is quite right. — JohnFromPinckney (talk / edits) 20:18, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support. I would favour prefixing the name with "Template" or "Template:" for clarity, but we generally don't bother with that in tracking categories, with only about 100 named that way,[1] compared to thousands in Tracking categories which omit "Template" in their name, e.g. Special:Prefixindex/Category:Navseasoncats. – Fayenatic London 13:31, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Current categories[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: keep. bibliomaniac 1 5 05:35, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:Current elections
Propose deleting Category:Current wildfires

Nominator's rationale: delete per recent discussions about similar categories on November 9. @QueenofBithynia, LaundryPizza03, Peterkingiron, Lenticel, Maxaxax, Oculi, and Koavf: pinging contributors to these discussions. There is a whole tree under Category:Current sports events, I will leave that for now, but of course everyone is free to comment on that too. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:00, 19 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all We don't categorize based on current status (Category:Living people being an exception for legal reasons). ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 11:04, 19 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all per precedent --Lenticel ^(talk) 13:09, 19 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - these are different (maintenance categories) so the precedent does not apply. They are populated by templates {{current election}} and {{Current wildfire}} so maintenance is easy. Oculi (talk) 14:21, 19 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The first template does not provide information about maintenance at all, the second says:

"It is intended for use on articles for large natural disasters, such as severe weather, where official information should be consulted instead of Wikipedia exclusively. This template reminds readers that Wikipedia information may not be up-to-date and to consult secondary and primary sources instead."

But this may be true for every Wikipedia article. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:43, 19 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Well, Category:Current wildfires is empty at the moment so maintenance seems to have occurred. My point really is that say 2022 Alabama gubernatorial election has a prominent 'current' notice at the top, with instructions about its removal, which will take care of the category (less prominent, at the bottom). Oculi (talk) 22:25, 19 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ok then I'm withdrawing the nomination and I will add a maintenance template to the category page. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:02, 20 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I support deleting wildfires but elections and sport will be as lacking as ongoing conflicts. The argument from November 9 did not hold because there is no category for future protests. This time there is Category:Future elections by year but the argument will not hold under different pretext.

The above will be an archived discussion by the next week. The result of the discussion will be: delete.

You still can modify the discussoon and, after it is closed, make subsequent comments on the appropriate discussion page which nobody watches.--Maxaxa (talk) 01:42, 20 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl talk 19:23, 27 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - per Oculi's analysis of these as essentially maintenance categories. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)^{Talk to Me!} 15:28, 28 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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River Seine[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 December 5#River Seine

Single-article books categories[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 December 5#Single-article books categories

Category:Promising Young Woman[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 20:02, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:Promising Young Woman (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: SMALLCAT ★Trekker (talk) 00:20, 11 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl talk 16:38, 19 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If deleted, please add the other dependent articles in a "see also" section in the articles. There is obviously a direct link to the main article in the header of each dependent article so that does not need to be added in "see also". Marcocapelle (talk) 08:08, 20 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl talk 17:22, 27 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. I have added "see also" links where needed. – Fayenatic London 11:34, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Soviet states[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: redirect & manual upmerge as per Fayenatic London. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 20:04, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:Soviet states (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Unclear definition and inclusion criteria. Charles Essie (talk) 16:06, 27 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, the subcategories have nothing in common with each other except they have some relationship with the Soviet Union. But they are already in the tree of Category:Soviet Union. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:11, 27 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This seems to be much the same as Category:Soviet republics. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:58, 27 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
keep a look at the contents here and the contents of the other categories mentioned above shows little overlap and certainly nothing as useful the entities collected here in this category Hmains (talk) 01:11, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure I follow what you're saying. Charles Essie (talk) 02:28, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Empty and redirect to Category:Soviet republics, with manual partial upmerge where applicable to Category:Communist states and Category:Former socialist republics. – Fayenatic London 13:12, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Good point, thank you for (always) being this accurate. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:14, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:8th-century historians from the Umayyad Caliphate[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 20:04, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:8th-century historians from the Umayyad Caliphate to Category:8th-century people from the Umayyad Caliphate and Category:8th-century historians of the medieval Islamic world

Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, only two articles in this category. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:28, 27 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support -- not enough content now or likely to be. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:56, 27 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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