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Category:Jewish sportswomen[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Jewish sportspeople. There was no consensus on whether "Jew" + "sportsperson" satisfies WP:EGRS, but those who didn't object often said that we don't need to subdivide further by gender. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 18:20, 6 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:EGRS/I, trivial intersections like should not be created. In this case, the intersection of religion, occupation, and gender is not defining. Edward-Woodrow • talk 20:05, 25 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. The category is acceptable per WP:EGRS/E because Jewish people are ethnoreligious and, as such, cannot be classified as religious in the same sense as an Anglican or a Roman Catholic. I cannot agree that the category is non-defining because, clearly, its members are female, known for their sporting prowess and are Jewish; and they are defined by those aspects. PearlyGigs (talk) 23:46, 25 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I've added some points that have arisen in the other category discussions concerning Jewish people. PearlyGigs (talk) 15:35, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • :* It is irrelevant that Jews are ethnoreligious. WP:OCEGRS refers both to ethnicity and religion. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:02, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Jewish sportsmen[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Jewish sportspeople. There was no consensus on whether "Jew" + "sportsperson" satisfies WP:EGRS, but those who didn't object often said that we don't need to subdivide further by gender. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 18:20, 6 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:EGRS/I, trivial intersections like should not be created. In this case, the intersection of religion, occupation, and gender is not defining. Edward-Woodrow • talk 20:05, 25 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Same rationale as for sportswomen above. The category is acceptable per WP:EGRS/E because Jewish people are ethnoreligious and, as such, cannot be classified as religious in the same sense as an Anglican or a Roman Catholic. PearlyGigs (talk) 23:48, 25 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I've added some points that have arisen in the other category discussions concerning Jewish people. PearlyGigs (talk) 15:36, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@PearlyGigs and Brandmeister: As I have noted in other discussions, this is still an EGRS/I violation, as that section includes ethnic groups. Edward-Woodrow • talk 22:12, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I've noted in another nomination a discrepancy with established practice, particularly Category:People by ethnicity and occupation. Brandmeistertalk 22:20, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Jewish athletes (track and field)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 19:09, 6 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Propose deleting:
Nominator's rationale: per WP:EGRS/I, trivial intersections like this, between religion and occupation, shouldn't be created. This is unnecessary overcategorization. (I am nominating subcategories of Category:Jewish sportspeople in blocks so as reduce chances of a WP:TRAINWRECK. Also, 30-odd categories are a pain to nominate manually all in quick succession) Edward-Woodrow • talk 19:54, 25 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
In fact EGRS clearly states: Most sportspeople should not be categorized by religion, since being Catholic, Buddhist, or another religion is not relevant to the way they perform in sports. For instance, in sports, a Roman Catholic athlete is not treated as notably different from a Lutheran or Methodist athlete. These categories are in clear contravention of existing guidelines. The intersection here is not defining. Articles should be categorized under Jewish people and (whatever their profession is). Edward-Woodrow • talk 11:58, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The key point you have missed is that Jews are ethnoreligious and, as such, a Jewish person cannot be classified as religious in the same sense as an Anglican or a Roman Catholic. Further, while you are using WP:EGRS/I to justify your case, you have not mentioned WP:EGRS/E which considers ethnicity and says: Ethnic groups are commonly used when categorising people; however, race is not. It goes on to give as an example: We do have Category:Jewish musicians, but we should not have Category:Semitic musicians. That is because Jews are an ethnic group but Semites are a race which includes Arabs as well as Jews. PearlyGigs (talk) 15:39, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@PearlyGigs and Ortizesp: Well, ethncity still isn't relevant to they way these people perform in sports. Whether we're discussing a religious group, or an ethnic group, or an ethnoreligious group, it is still overcategorization and still an EGRS/I issue. That guideline clearly and straightforwardly discourages the creation and existence of these categories: it says (emphasis mine): Do not create categories that intersect a particular topic (such as occupation, place of residence, or other such characteristics), with an ethnicity, gender, religion, sexual orientation, or disability, unless these characteristics are relevant to that topic. Edward-Woodrow • talk 20:03, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Writers from the German Empire[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 October 12#Category:Writers from the German Empire

Category:Recipients of aid from Gerrit Smith[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: listify and delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 19:14, 6 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Categorization by a non-defining / trivial characteristic. Smith's financial support to John Brown's raid or the career of Frederick Douglass is trivial. User:Namiba 13:12, 8 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Smith's financial support to John Brown's raid was not trivial at all. No one helped Brown more, and Smith feared prosecution and ended up for a time in the New York Lunatic Asylum, in Utica. Others he helped were not trivial either. He was the leading philanthropist of his day. deisenbe (talk) 13:16, 8 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It is an important aspect and should be covered in the article. However, his raid is not defined by Smith's support in the way Wikipedia defines the term. "The defining characteristics of an article's topic are central to categorizing the article. Per WP:NONDEF, a defining characteristic is one that reliable sources commonly and consistently refer to[1] in describing the topic, such as the nationality of a person or the geographic location of a place."--User:Namiba 13:27, 8 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, not a defining characteristic of the people in this category. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:01, 9 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Listify - I almost said keep, because - per the discussion above - this apparently meets the standard of "could an article be written about it". However, looking at the cat, it doesn't indicate the various reasons for the philanthopy. This seems better as a list, either to Gerrit Smith, or a separate list page. - jc37 19:35, 24 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Social class by region[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 19:16, 6 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, it is unusual to find "by country" and "by continent" under "by region". Marcocapelle (talk) 06:02, 15 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oposse In my experience its not very unusual, and even if it is I dont think that is a good enough reason to delete.★Trekker (talk) 09:15, 15 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • It is not a deletion proposal but a merge proposal, so that the "by country" and "by continent" subcats can be found directly under Social class. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:56, 15 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Support. As it makes it easier to access the two child categories Mason (talk) 01:34, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge per nom. The only difference here per the existing by country/continent scheme is the attempt to have child categories for "The Americas" and "Latin America", conflicting with the longstanding categories for North & South America. Although there's always something a bit arbitrary in the way continents are defined, having several parallel schemes just ends up in having content badly categorized. Place Clichy (talk) 17:15, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Talmud rabbis of the Land of Israel[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 October 12#Category:Talmud rabbis of the Land of Israel

Category:14th-century Russian princes[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 October 12#Category:14th-century Russian princes

Category:Enslaved workers at the University of Virginia[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: split to Category:University of Virginia people and Category:History of the University of Virginia (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 16:00, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEF and WP:SMALLCAT. Enslaved people were forced to work against their will on many different projects and locations. Moreover, this category contains 4 articles, only two of which are about two notable enslaved workers. It is also unlikely to significantly grow in the foreseeable future. Lastly, all articles are already in Category:African-American history of Virginia so the contents should only be merged to Category:History of the University of Virginia. User:Namiba 20:14, 15 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. The enslaved workers should be honored and not dumped into the history of the Univ. of Virginia, which will mean no one notices them. It's an essential, valid categorization. deisenbe (talk) 21:56, 15 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I think you may misunderstand the purpose of a category. It is intended to help readers of Wikipedia navigate similar articles. As WP:CATEGORIZATION states "the central goal of the category system is to provide navigational links to pages in Wikipedia, in a hierarchy of categories which readers, knowing essential—defining—characteristics of a topic, can browse and quickly find sets of pages on topics that are defined by those characteristics." A category is not a way to honor heroes.--User:Namiba 16:08, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Then write an article about it. Oh well, you already did. Place Clichy (talk) 18:08, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Social classes in the Ottoman Empire[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 October 16#Category:Social classes in the Ottoman Empire

Category:Malayalam film songs[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Songs in Malayalam composed for film. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 16:06, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Follow-up to Category:Songs in Hindi and sibling Category:Film songs in Hindi, so a WP:C2C could be made for Category:Film songs in Malayalam. However, grandparent Category:Songs written for films suggests Category:Songs in Malayalam written for films. Technically we should favour the latter, but it's a bit wordier. NLeeuw (talk) 21:33, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Which rename target?
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  • I would be ok with "composed" instead of "written", my main point is to have "for film(s)". Marcocapelle (talk) 19:40, 25 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    I really don't have a big preference about "for", I'm merely trying to follow previous consensus to limit these to composed for film soundtraks, as opposed to being initially composed for something else. The only issue, I think, are those songs which are composed for a soundtrack, but are obviously intended to be top 40 hits as well. Not sure how to address that.
    Anyway, as things stand, still supporting a rename to "Songs [in X] composed for film soundtracks", for all such cats. - jc37 01:05, 28 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Religious structures destroyed by Muslim invaders[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Religious buildings and structures destroyed in the Muslim period in the Indian subcontinent. There is consensus against the current name, but not much consensus for a replacement. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 16:10, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: rename, considering that one of the parent categories is an Indian category, this category is presumably be meant to be Indian too, but that is not apparent from its current name. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:47, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Lean delete Not sure if this category should exist per WP:NPOV. The 'main article' does not fit the category, and it's framing this era in quite a religion-based negative way: "Muslim" + "invader". The subcategories may be legitimate, but the reductionist framing of all agents as "Muslim invaders" carries a certain Hindu nationalist and xenophobic anti-Muslim connotation. Given the current situation in the Republic of India, this is not an innocent framing, and I think Wikipedia should not be amplifying this POV if we don't need to. Incidentally, Category:Religious structures destroyed by Muhammad bin Tughluq may be merged for now to Category:Religious structures destroyed by Delhi Sultanate. NLeeuw (talk) 21:52, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Deletion would result in the subcategories becoming orphaned. A different rename seems a better solution to this problem. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:01, 4 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Slovenian Wikipedia categories[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename all as proposed. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 23:26, 12 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:C2D per Slovene Wikipedia. Pinging contributors to previous discussion (closed as procedural keep by me, in preparation for this nomination): @Gamerknowitall, @LaundryPizza03, @Marcocapelle, @Nederlandse Leeuw, @Pppery, @RevelationDirect. Qwerfjkltalk 18:42, 25 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support per precedent. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 18:45, 25 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Family of Salmoneus[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 16:10, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT (3 articles, not likely to grow). User:Namiba 18:18, 25 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 23:53, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:John Brown and family in Kansas[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 23:50, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Duplicative of Category:Bleeding Kansas and Category:Family of John Brown (abolitionist) User:Namiba 18:16, 25 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Massacres of the 2020 Nagorno-Karabakh war[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 23:49, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: None of the articles inside is titled "massacre", so this appears to violate WP:NPOV. Additionally, there's a WP:OVERLAPCAT with Category:Military operations of the 2020 Nagorno-Karabakh war where the contents would fit best. Brandmeistertalk 15:19, 25 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Monarchs of Ethiopia[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 23:50, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: rename per actual content. "Of" wrongly suggests that all monarchs ruled a country called Ethiopia, but mostly they ruled a territory within the borders of present-day Ethiopia. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:09, 25 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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People of French-Canadian descent[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete and merge as explained by Place Clichy (talk · contribs). (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 23:45, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Propose merging the following categories into Category:People of French-Canadian descent:
Nominator's rationale: All are 1-article categories. The proposed parent, after merger, would contain only 6 articles, hardly in need of diffusion. Gjs238 (talk) 13:51, 25 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Place Clichy (talk) 20:16, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support as per Place Clichy. Thank you for the time you put into that reply.
Gjs238 (talk) 01:03, 2 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]


References

  1. ^ The Last Skeptik (24 December 2018). "S2E10: Taika Waititi". Thanks for Trying Podcast (Podcast). Acast. Event occurs at 42:44–43:04. Archived from the original on 15 August 2020. Retrieved 25 August 2020.
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Category:Xbox Series X and Series S role-playing video games[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 19:17, 6 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Non-standard cross-categorization. Years ago, the WP:VG project went through and cleaned out "platform x genre" categories, and they've all long since been deleted. This new one is for the latest current generation Xbox. It is non-defining, that is none of the topic are explicitly known as "Xbox Series X/S role playing game". They are role playing games that happen to be on Xbox, in addition to many other platforms. -- ferret (talk) 13:43, 25 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • agreed. thanks for the explanation. but do you suggest a better/closer alternative? Grandia01 (talk) 07:29, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    @Grandia01 The games in question are already in the correct categories. We do not build cross-categorization like this, for platforms + genres. You use the platform categories and genre categories separately. -- ferret (talk) 12:56, 28 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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People in Europe by century[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 October 16#People in Europe by century

Category:Jewish chess players[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 October 16#Category:Jewish chess players

Category:Harvard University stubs[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Northeastern United States university stubs. No consensus to delete the stub template. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 23:39, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Underpopulated stub category with no evidence of approval by WikiProject stub sorting. As always, stub categories are not free for just any user to create on a whim: the minimum size bar for the creation of a stub category is 60 articles, and for that reason stub categories require approval by the Wikiproject before they may be created -- but there are only 14 articles here, and there's no evidence in "what links here" of any discussion to approve it.
I'm neutral on the necessity of the template -- it can just upsort its articles into the Category:Northeastern United States university stubs and/or Category:Massachusetts school stubs parents, but the value of that may also be debatable because a lot of the articles here are about things associated with the school (songs, buildings, marketing campaigns, etc.) rather than schools per se -- but either way, there would have to be at least 46 more articles than this to justify a dedicated stub category. Bearcat (talk) 10:50, 25 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Attorneys-General of the Colony of Victoria[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 23:38, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Requesting the merge as there is only one article for Attorney Generals, yet there are two different categories ––– GMH MELBOURNE TALK 09:25, 25 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Saudi Arabian people of Austrian-Jewish descent[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 23:37, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:NARROWCAT. Regarding option B: one may wonder if someone still belongs in a Jewish category tree if they are not Jewish themselves after their parents converted from Judaism before their birth. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:28, 25 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Moroccan people of Spanish-Jewish descent[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 23:38, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: rename, for more clarity: the current title sounds as if these people are no longer Jews, but they still are. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:10, 25 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment, lean oppose. I don't think being descended from a Jewish group requires them to identify as Jewish. They could have been adopted or converted. Conversos come to mind for this specific population. Mason (talk) 21:34, 25 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Oppose Changing this category name would put it at odds with the thousands of other categories that have the same naming pattern. Second, these categories are for ethnic descent. The people in these categories may or may not be Jewish. Changing the name unnecessarily narrows the scope of the category. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 01:35, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Russian exiles to the Russian North[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 23:36, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Small, underpopulated cat that isn't clearly defined. should be upmerged Mason (talk) 03:23, 25 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Wildfires in Quebec[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 23:36, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT. 2 articles. –Aidan721 (talk) 00:08, 25 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep as category creator. SMALLCAT is for categories that "will never have more than a few members", but we've seen from the big wildfires of this summer that more articles are likely to be created in future in this category. It also links to a Wikimedia Commons category. Blythwood (talk) 02:32, 25 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge for now without objection to recreation of the category when there are five articles about Quebec. Note that currently there is also an article about the whole of Canada in this category, that is not appropriate anyway. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:52, 25 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge for Now per WP:NARROWCAT. No conceptual objection to the grouping but the category doesn't currently aid navigation. - RevelationDirect (talk) 15:01, 28 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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