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September 26[edit]

Onychophoran orders and superfamilies[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: procedural close, the categories have already been deleted. (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 07:42, 30 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:OVERCAT. The former category contains two articles, and the latter contains one, with no prospect of additional articles being added to either in the foreseeable future. I created these categories with an overly narrow understanding of what constitutes overcategorisation; an error pointed out by @Monster Iestyn. Ypna (talk) 20:13, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Ypna: in this case it is quicker to tag these pages with {{Db-self}}. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:54, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Establishments in Ethiopia[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge and rename. (non-admin closure)LaundryPizza03 (d) 00:04, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge/rename, for consistency, all siblings use "Ethiopia", there are just these few categories with the deviant "Ethiopian Empire" format. Thanks to User:Liz for detecting this. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:52, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support. I agree that consistency is beneficial here Mason (talk) 01:30, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Closed amusement parks[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)LaundryPizza03 (d) 00:05, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category seems to be redundant; Defunct amusements parks is older and has established trees. ForsythiaJo (talk) 17:00, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Military catering[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 October 4#Military catering

Years in Japan[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure)LaundryPizza03 (d) 00:08, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: All nominated categories have only 1 article. See the precedent set at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 February 9#Years in Japan (1000-1800) where the consensus was to merge all categories before 1500. –Aidan721 (talk) 15:30, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Albany Harbour harbourmasters[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Nothing to do, in fact, since the category was emptied and nobody has objected. (non-admin closure)LaundryPizza03 (d) 00:12, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Rename and repurpose, as it currently only holds one article. If renamed, add Category:Fremantle Harbour harbourmasters. I am open to broader suggestions that could also emcompass Category:Harbour engineers, but "Harbourmasters" would probably be a useful level. – Fayenatic London 14:12, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:50, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • nah just delete as an empty category - the likelihood of the other albany harbourmastersemerging from editing by recent patterns is thin - as the Australian maritime history project didnt have port personnel anywhere - I have created the australian harbourmasters category - many of them are identified in titles of articles - but not a mention of the maritime history as a category or as a project tag... that is fairly usual... JarrahTree 09:31, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Category has been emptied. Liz Read! Talk! 01:08, 30 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:People in environment[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Only dispute was about inclusion of a specific subcategory, which does not need to be resolved at CfD. (non-admin closure)LaundryPizza03 (d) 00:15, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Clearer name. – Fayenatic London 14:04, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Science occupations[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: split/purge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 16:21, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Split to separate biography categories from articles about occupations. I have brought this for a full discussion rather than just doing it, as other editors may well be able to improve on the proposal. E.g. perhaps the first new category should rather be Category:People in science occupations, corresponding to some others in category:People by occupation; or perhaps the second should be Category:People in mathematics. – Fayenatic London 13:54, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Jews by occupation[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: keep. There is agreement that although most subcategories probably fail WP:EGRS, not all of them do. (non-admin closure)LaundryPizza03 (d) 00:09, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:EGRS/I violation. The intersection of religion and occupation is not defining. In fact, that guideline explicitly states: Do not create categories that intersect a particular topic (such as occupation, place of residence, or other such characteristics), with an ethnicity, gender, religion, sexual orientation, or disability, unless these characteristics are relevant to that topic. Being Jewish is not relevant to being, say, an astronomer.
Furthermore: Most sportspeople should not be categorized by religion, since being Catholic, Buddhist, or another religion is not relevant to the way they perform in sports. For instance, in sports, a Roman Catholic athlete is not treated as notably different from a Lutheran or Methodist athlete. This category and all its subcategories (save a very few relavent intersections, like Category:Jewish religious leaders) should be deleted. Edward-Woodrowtalk 12:15, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Again, the key point is that Jews are ethnoreligious and, as such, a Jewish person cannot be classified as religious in the same sense as an Anglican or a Roman Catholic. Further, while you are using WP:EGRS/I to justify your case, you have not mentioned WP:EGRS/E which considers ethnicity and says: Ethnic groups are commonly used when categorising people; however, race is not. It goes on to give as an example: We do have Category:Jewish musicians, but we should not have Category:Semitic musicians. That is because Jews are an ethnic group but Semites are a race which includes Arabs as well as Jews. PearlyGigs (talk) 15:28, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Romance words and phrases[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)LaundryPizza03 (d) 00:10, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: These categories may have been intended as a counterpart to the better-populated Category:Slavic words and phrases, but are currently not useful for navigation, as they only contain French names, which can be reached via other parents. – Fayenatic London 12:02, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • One week after creating these, the categories' creator was put under an indefinite topic ban from the subject of names, broadly construed.[2] The timing means that these are not quite eligible for speedy deletion under WP:G5. – Fayenatic London 12:36, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • They could serve as a container category with subcats Category:Italian words and phrases etc. But I am not convinced that this is really needed. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:28, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Moksha-aligned dharmas[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)LaundryPizza03 (d) 00:10, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Not defining and somewhat arbitrary. ―Justin (koavf)TCM 08:22, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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