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Category Decision Discussion_log
Category:1826 establishments in Turkey Rename/merge. If we need to categorize as both, the years in categories can contain both Turkey and Ottoman Empire June 10
Category:1854 establishments in Montana No consensus. The is a consensus to change, however this needs to be examined at the article level. So, editors are free to appropriately re categorize. If that results in this category being emptied, it should be brought back here for a review June 25
Category:1855 establishments in Germany Keep June 6
Category:1864 establishments in Germany Keep June 6
Category:1868 establishments in Germany Keep June 6
Category:1889 establishments in Malaya Rename to Category:1889 establishments in British Malaya June 3
Category:1891 establishments in Finland No consensus June 18
Category:1893 establishments in Malaysia Rename to Category:1893 establishments in British Malaya June 3
Category:1901 establishments in Malaya Rename per nom. If category parents are needed in the Malaya tree they can be added after the rename. I will note the other discussions, but the comments here indicate a consensus. This close should be reviewed when and if we develop a policy on how to handle all of these June 19
Category:1903 establishments in Poland No consensus. I think the comments at the very end of the discussion about Congress Poland point that maybe there is more to this issue. I suggest the interested editors consider the comments here and then decide how to proceed June 20
Category:1903 establishments in South Africa No consensus June 7
Category:1904 establishments in South Africa No consensus June 7
1905 establishments in Israel Rename/merge per nom. Not sure how the point of Ottoman Syria affect this, but since one of these was a merge, the action as proposed seemed logical. If Ottoman Syria is the better direction, then a group rename is needed June 6
Category:1911 establishments in Ukraine 'Delete, probably should have been a speedy for that reason. There is no consensus her to overturn the previous close. To make sure nothing leaves a proper tree, this will be a merge to Category:1911 establishments in Russia June 18
1913 establishments in Poland No consensus. To match the 1903 close that I just did. There are many valid points raised in these discussions. I'm not sure how these will wind up, but clearly there are some issues with keeping or outright deletion June 19
Category:1915 establishments in Poland No consensus. To match the 1903 close that I just did. There are many valid points raised in these discussions. I'm not sure how these will wind up, but clearly there are some issues with keeping or outright deletion June 19
Category:1920s in Saudi Arabia No consensus. Closing this before we reach consensus on the 1927 categories would be inappropriate as this is part of a series June 17
1927 establishments in Saudi Arabia No consensus. I think that based on the previous discussions, this might have been closed as a rename. However I noticed that there is no category tree for the Kingdom of Nejd and Hejaz. Which begs the question of what name should be used for the category, 'Kingdom of Nejd and Hejaz' or 'Nejd and Hejaz'? If we were to allow the move, then it would be a category without the rest of the country tree. I don't think that would be wise. Yes, there would be a parent to Saudi Arabia, but would that be enough? After almost 2 months of discussion, I think there are too many questions to close this any other way June 18
Category:1928 Summer Olympic venues Keep June 6
1935 establishments in Zambia Rename June 18
Category:1936 establishments in Guinea-Bissau Rename June 5
Category:1936 in Guinea-Bissau Rename June 6
Category:1939 establishments in Moldova No consensus. In other words, do not delete at this time. That does not mean nothing needs to be done. There are issues which clearly are not resolved for a few years around this time. More discussion is needed, but I'm not sure where. I'm concerned that the discussion is complicated by restoring a deleted category without a discussion knowing that this would be contentious and maybe even WP:POINTy. I'm also bothered that the editor who did this did not mention it in their first comment here. Maybe the split solution is the best, but I suspect that there will be objections to anyone doing that. If all else fails, this needs to be brought back here for the discussion again. Maybe that nomination could take into consideration the points raised here and find a workable compromise? June 11
1971 establishments in the Democratic Republic of the Congo Rename June 9
Category:1989 establishments in the Democratic Republic of the Congo Rename. Fell free to add other parent categories and redirects as needed. The higher level can be a new nomination or wait and see if the RFC provides any guidance June 4
Category:21st Century Fox subsidiaries No consensus. There was no discussion here on this being a member of Category:Corporate subsidiaries by company June 30
Category:24 Hours of Le Mans race cars do not merge; this is without prejudice to a future nomination to rename to Category:Race cars developed for the 24 Hours of Le Mans or similar. Even if not renamed, the category could use a definition June 12
Category:280s BC establishments in Turkey Merge as nominated. The question of Turkey vs. Asia Minor is a correct question, but this is beyond the scope of this discussion June 26
Category:311 members Delete June 19
Category:993 establishments in Bohemia Merge June 21
Category:ABC Sport delete June 5
Category:Albums produced by Daft Punk Merge June 20
Category:Albums recorded in Slovenia No consensus June 12
Category:Allied occupation of Romania Rename June 11
Category:Amateur radio organizations in India rename June 8
Category:American members of Reformed Christian churches Relisted at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2013 August 4#Category:American members of Reformed Christian churches June 11
Category:American serial killers by State merge all to Category:American serial killers and the appropriate subcat of Category:American criminals by state June 12
American soccer players by State keep. - and was withdrawn by the nominator over a month ago June 4
Category:American torturers no consensus June 22
Category:Amphibious vehicles of the Cold War Delete. The sole article was already in a period category. As was pointed out in the discussion, there do not appear to be sufficient articles on this type of vehicle to populate a tree like this. Creation can be considered if we have more articles. I would suggest discussing with the military history project to assess the need for this type of tree as well as the strength of any support before recreation June 3
Category:Anglican Church of Burundi Keep June 11
Category:Anti-Muslim organizations from Sri Lanka rename June 9
Category:Anti-Muslim pogroms in India Delete. As was pointed out, the main article was deleted for violation of NPOV. It has been deleted 6 times. So if the article title has POV issues, then that would apply to the category also. If the existence of the article can be fixed, then we can review the appropriateness of a category June 4
Category:Appalachian Trail Hall of Fame Listify. Deletion would lose information, so the contents have been listified in Appalachian Trail Museum and the category can be deleted June 19
Category:Appalachian Trail people upmerge to Category:Appalachian Trail and purge. There might be enough of a lean toward deletion for a delete result, but that seems a bit draconian. Some of these people seem quite important to the Appalachian Trail's history, while others just hiked it. So I'm putting them all in the trail category and letting folks attentive to that category sort it out June 27
Category:Arthurian locations no consensus June 2
Category:Article Feedback 5 Additional Articles merge June 9
Category:Articles with attributed pull quotes No consensus June 26
Category:Articles with non-English language external links Rename June 1
Category:Articles wtih Jakaltek language external links delete June 27
Baptist clergy rename to "ministers" form. I realize this wasn't clear-cut, so let me break it down. First, the count (I know, I know—consensus is not a vote count—but you've got to start somewhere when trying to figure out overall preferences). There were three options that were presented: "ministers" (nomination), "religious leaders" (alternate proposal), and "clergy" (status quo). Since there were three options, some users (but not all) ranked their top two preferences. "Ministers" received three #1 votes and zero #2 votes. "Religious leaders" received two #1 votes and one #2 vote. "Clergy" received zero #1 votes and two #2 votes. It seems that a "no consensus" result is therefore going to be looked upon favourably by no one, since that would result in defaulting to "clergy", which no one chose as their #1 preference. So it's worthwhile here to make a decision between "ministers" and "religious leaders". On pure numbers, "ministers" was slightly favoured. The fact that Category:Presbyterian clergy by nationality was renamed to Category:Presbyterian ministers by nationality and Category:Methodist clergy was renamed to Category:Methodist ministers lends some further strength in favour of "ministers". True, Category:Protestant ministers by denomination and Category:Protestant clergy by denomination were both renamed to Category:Protestant religious leaders by denomination, but "Protestant" is much broader than "Presbyterian", "Methodist", or "Baptist", and this close brings consistency between the latter three category trees. June 5
Category:Best Special Effects Academy Award winners merge June 16
Category:Books divided into chapters and verses delete June 2
Category:British investors in slavery and slave trading delete June 23
Category:Burma subdivision football templates Rename June 19
Category:Byzantine emperors killed in battle Merge to Category:Roman emperors killed in battle June 30
Category:Cabinet Departments of Thailand Rename June 21
Category:California statutes do not rename June 24
Category:Calvinists rename June 10
Category:Candidates for speedy deletion as rejected AfC submissions Merge June 27
Category:Carolina Ballet delete June 16
Category:Cars assembled in Australia delete as not WP:DEFINING. In case anyone wants to make a list article, I will paste the current contents at Portal talk:Australian cars. – June 7
Categories - Order of Loyalty to the Crown of Malaysia (General) rename all for now, but per Lquilter's comments, this is without prejudice to a future nomination for deletion June 7
Categories: History artists and Historical painters rename to Category:History painters and Category:19th-century painters of historical subjects respectively. The latter is not Category:19th-century history painters to avoid ambiguity over painters of 19th-century history. I will leave it to the interested editors to recategorise other C19 artists into the sub-category as appropriate. – June 6
Category:Catholic Apostolic Churches rename June 13
Category:Celebrity food experts Delete June 3
Category:Celebrity-endorsed video games Delete June 4
Category:Chinese city stubs delete. I'm also closing this related discussion as "delete". June 10
Category:Christian denominational unions by predecessor churches Rename. No consensus on the listify and delete. If that is a good option, listify and then nominate for deletion June 13
Category:Christian denominations and unions by century established Relisted at 2013 July 5 June 13
Category:Christian group structuring rename June 12
CINI and CINI people delete June 5
Clergy by period rename/merge June 14
Category:Collegiate woodsman teams delete June 6
Category:Conspiracism in the United States Rename to Category:Conspiracy theories in the United States June 16
Category:Conspiracy theories do not delete; keep existing name June 23
Category:Conwy United F.C. players rename June 10
Category:Cornish footballers rename June 7
Category:Damallsvenskan players by team No consensus June 26
Category:Dams in India by river (sub cats) rename to Category:Dams on the XXXX River format June 13
Category:Depeche Mode members keep June 5
Category:Disney videos and DVDs Merge to Category:Disney films. Consensus was actually for a delete, but that would have left some articles without a parent in the Disney or film tree June 4
Drugs cleanup, no consensus for changes, except that I will take this as authority to replace Category:Video games about drugs with Category:Video games about illegal drug trade and purge it of works that casually reference drug use. – June 10
Category:Dutch Reformed Christians Rename. I think I got the renames right, if I missed any, let me know and I'll fix June 14
Category:Esperanto language no action: at time of close Category:Esperanto language simply redirects to Category:Esperanto (a non-participant in this discussion merged them); main article is at Esperanto. June 5
Establishments in Cape Colony by year Rename. This is about the need to use 'the' and not the anything else June 12
Category:European Capitals of Culture Delete June 30
Category:Fandom webcomics Rename June 19
Category:Fiction writers there is no consensus for implementing this proposal right now (the categories were not tagged in any case), but there was some indication in the discussion that users would be open to and would welcome further discussion on this issue. June 15
Category:Fictional survivors delete June 22
Category:Films starring actors portraying characters with the same first name Delete June 13
Category:Films starring Jim Carrey speedily delete per G4 as re-created material. Category:Jim Carrey films was deleted here and a number of other times, and consensus on these types of "films by actor" categories has been unwavering through the years. June 17
Category:Fish in popular culture no consensus June 18
Category:Fitness stubs delete (merged to Category:Health stubs) June 10
Category:Foreign-language broadcasting in the United States  Relisted at 2013 JUL 5 CFD. June 14
Category:Framed for child pornography by malware delete June 25
Category:Free first-person shooters merge June 2
Category:Fußball-Regionalliga Rename June 18
Category:Gaelic Athletic Association stubs rename June 2
Category:Hassan Rouhani keep June 15
Category:High Fantasy Films and TV Series Split June 20
Category:History of the Ottoman Empire by province rename June 11
History of Upper Volta No consensus. I will note that the point was raised about the results of {{estcatCountry|xxx|x|country name}} being used. If that template is not appropriate for any category it does not have to be used, so bad parent categories created by that category should not hold back otherwise proper changes June 4
Category:Host cities of the Olympic Games Delete June 4
Category:Imprisoned Buddhist monks delete. (If anyone wants to consider the articles for inclusion in Category:Persecution of Buddhists, the articles in the category were banishment of Buddhist monks from Nepal, Kumar Kashyap Mahasthavir, Bauddha Rishi Mahapragya, Pragyananda Mahasthavir, and Sudarshan Mahasthavir. There was no consensus as to which of these, if any, should be selectively upmerged, so I'm not performing any, but that doesn't mean that users can't pursue the issue. The listifying to Persecution of Buddhists option was also mentioned.) June 5
Category:Industrial designs Delete June 29
Category:Innovators keep as container category. Include Category:Discoverers and lists as appropriate. Manual checks are needed to listify/categorise where appropriate; I volunteer. – June 6
Category:Iterated binary operations Delete June 23
Category:Janice Levin Dancer Honorees delete June 2
Category:Jerash Private University delete for now June 2
Category:JFK Olimps Rīga keep but rename to Category:JFK Olimps June 2
Category:John Seward Johnson II delete June 2
Category:Johnny Bench Award winners Delete June 19
Category:Jordanian Armed Forces No consensus. Category now has three members so a discussion that started with one member could be misleading. No problem with an immediate new nomination based on the current contents and the discussion here June 30
Kategori:Milletlerine göre tarih dolaşım şablonları speedied June 9
Category:Knights and Dames Grand Crosses of the Equestrian Order of the Holy Sepulchre rename June 26
Category:Knights of the Equestrian Order of the Holy Sepulchre rename June 26
Category:Lakes of the Tibet Autonomous Region do not merge June 23
Category:Lighthouses in Connecticut by county keep June 3
Category:Lighthouses in New England merge. – June 3
Category:Lists of organisations based in Russia No consensus. The point was made in other discussions that it is acceptable to us either the 'z' spelling or the 's' spelling in UK English. In this discussion there was no mention of that instead just arguing to use the UK spelling June 9
Category:Local Government in Belfast Rename June 1
Category:Locations in the Iliad No consensus June 30
Category:Los Angeles Ballet delete June 16
Category:Majk Spirit Delete June 28
Category:Mammals of the People's Republic of China Merge June 6
Category:Mascot Hall of Fame inductees delete June 5
Category:Members of provincial executive councils Rename June 21
Category:Members of the Institute of Directors Delete June 20
Category:Methodist clergy Merge. There seem to be several unresolved questions, but a merge was clearly indicated. Looks like some cleanup may be needed. If that reveals a need for a new nomination so be it June 5
Category:Military operations of the War in Afghanistan (2001–present) No consensus June 6
Category:Modern artillery of the United Kingdom rename/delete as nominated June 8
Category:Modern military equipment of Germany rename June 5
Category:Modern military vehicles Merge June 4
Category:Motley's Crew delete (it has already been emptied by its creator) June 4
Category:Music videos shot in Ibiza delete June 27
Category:Naval Aviation Hall of Honor inductees delete June 7
Category:News International rename June 27
Category:News Limited Rename June 30
Category:Nik Stamps Film Work administrative close: category was deleted as empty after sole article was deleted June 25
Category:North Carolina Music Hall of Fame inductees Delete June 6
Category:Novels about bats Delete June 18
Category:Oil fields in China merge to Category:Oil fields in China, noting with a caveat that presently there is not much consistency one way or the other in Category:Oil fields by country. June 7
Category:Oil fields in Ecuador merge to Category:Oil fields in Ecuador, noting with a caveat that presently there is not much consistency one way or the other in Category:Oil fields by country. June 7
Category:Oil fields in South Sudan merge to Category:Oil fields in South Sudan, noting with a caveat that presently there is not much consistency one way or the other in Category:Oil fields by country. June 7
Category:Organisations based in Kiev city merge June 9
Category:Organisations based in Minsk merge; will keep a redirect June 8
Category:Organisations based in Prague merge; will keep a redirect June 8
Category:Organizations based in Bangkok Reserve merge June 9
Category:Organizations based in Denmark No consensus. The point was made in other discussions that it is acceptable to us either the 'z' spelling or the 's' spelling in UK English. In this discussion there was no mention of that instead just arguing to use the UK spelling June 9
Category:Organizations based in France No consensus June 9
Category:Organizations based in Greenland No consensus. This one does need to be rediscussed since both categories do exist. I'm not relisting since this discussion is so old. Maybe more of a reason on the nomination would help June 9
Category:Organizations based in in the United Arab Emirates rename June 9
Category:Organizations based in Lithuania No consensus. The point was made in other discussions that it is acceptable to us either the 'z' spelling or the 's' spelling in UK English. In this discussion there was no mention of that instead just arguing to use the UK spelling June 9
Organizations based in Poland No consensus. The point was made in other discussions that it is acceptable to us either the 'z' spelling or the 's' spelling in UK English. In this discussion there was no mention of that instead just arguing to use the UK spelling June 9
Organizations based in Romania No consensus. The point was made in other discussions that it is acceptable to us either the 'z' spelling or the 's' spelling in UK English. In this discussion there was no mention of that instead just arguing to use the UK spelling June 9
Organizations based in Serbia No consensus. The point was made in other discussions that it is acceptable to us either the 'z' spelling or the 's' spelling in UK English. In this discussion there was no mention of that instead just arguing to use the UK spelling June 9
Organizations based in Slovenia No consensus. The point was made in other discussions that it is acceptable to us either the 'z' spelling or the 's' spelling in UK English. In this discussion there was no mention of that instead just arguing to use the UK spelling June 9
Category:Organizations based in Sweden No consensus. The point was made in other discussions that it is acceptable to us either the 'z' spelling or the 's' spelling in UK English. In this discussion there was no mention of that instead just arguing to use the UK spelling June 9
Category:Organizations based in Vilnius No consensus. The point was made in other discussions that it is acceptable to us either the 'z' spelling or the 's' spelling in UK English. In this discussion there was no mention of that instead just arguing to use the UK spelling June 9
Category:Ottoman Imperial School of Military Engineering Merge to Category:Istanbul Technical University June 29
Category:PacifiCat-class ferries Delete June 1
Category:Parent categories delete. The one editor defending this category has not come up with a clear purpose & justification for it, distinct from container categories and fundamental categories. At present it contains a rather odd collection of just 48 categories, some of which are in sets e.g. films by parameter, but mostly unrelated; it will not be much of a loss, nor hard to reinstate if a different consensus emerges elsewhere or later. – June 5
Category:People associated with the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki Keep, with Category:Manhattan Project people as a "see also" June 9
Category:People expelled from school Delete June 28
Category:People from Belarus Merge. Consensus was to merge. There was some discussion that this should be a reverse merge. But the majority were for the merge in the direction proposed June 19
Category:People from Everman, Texas Merge June 20
Category:People from Hewitt, Texas Merge June 27
Category:People from Moody, Texas Merge June 27
Category:People from North Rhine-Westphalia executed at Plötzensee Prison Merge to Category:Executions at Plötzensee Prison June 16
Category:Piranhas in popular culture delete June 18
Category:Pitchshifter delete June 9
Category:Police misconduct in Poland Listify June 29
Pre-1910 establishments in South Africa No consensus June 7
Pre-1971 establishments in the United Arab Emirates Rename June 14
Category:Presbyterian courts Rename June 29
Category:Pritzker Military Library Literature Award Winner for Lifetime Achievement in Military Writing delete June 17
Category:Protestant ministers by denomination ALT-2: merge Category:Protestant ministers by denomination to Category:Protestant clergy by denomination to a new Category:Protestant religious leaders by denomination June 5
Category:Race Results on Tracks rename to Category:Race results by motorsport venue June 22
Category:Real Atlético Garcilaso footballers rename June 8
Category:Reissue albums procedural close: as suggested below, it seems fair to have some reasonable gap between the previous discussion and a new discussion, even if the previous discussion was closed as "no consensus". Essentially, so far we're just re-hashing the same arguments made there. I suggest a minimum of 8 weeks, but that's just a guideline and shouldn't be regarded as any sort of "red line". That should be long enough for those who support the category to define it, populate it, develop it and maintain it. It should also be long enough to start and resolve discussions on some of the content articles (some have suggested articles about reissue albums should be merged to the articles about the albums). But as noted, if limited to articles such as Bad 25, which are explicitly articles about reissued albums, the category has a stronger argument for being defining for the contents. June 13
Category:Religion in the United States by county Delete June 26
Category:Retired Angolan basketball players delete June 13
Category:Rob Schneider delete. I have added "see also" links for the current sub-cats to the main article. – June 17
Category:Roman Catholic church buildings in Montana rename; I took the old/previous discussions into account when closing this discussion June 24
Category:Royal Norwegian Navy guided missiles delete June 8
Category:Salon (magazine) Delete June 1
Category:Scale the Summit delete June 12
Category:Screenshots of comic strips delete; single item in category placed in Category:Non-free comic images, since it is a non-free comic image. If there are any free comic images, the proposed category could be created. June 26
Category:Shark in popular culture delete June 18
Category:Slacker comedies Delete June 3
Category:Slave traders and slave holders merge & split to Category:British slave traders and Category:Planters of the British West Indies (following Category:People of the British West Indies). – June 20
Category:Social enterprise No consensus. That was easy! I think there could be consensus to rename Category:Social entrepreneurship, but this multiple rename did not allow that issue to have a clear result. Also, it is clear that something needs to be done to cleanup this area. So, back to the drawing board. Maybe with some cleanup, a new approach or individual nominations consensus could be determined June 17
Category:Sodaplay Delete June 29
Category:Solo instrumental jazz albums merge Category:Solo instrumental jazz albums, Category:Solo guitar jazz albums, and Category:Solo piano jazz albums to Category:Jazz albums and Category:Instrumental albums. June 13
Category:Songs written by Blaine Larsen keep June 26
Category:South Indian films delete per G4; appears to be an attempt to do an end-run around the previous discussion. As I set out in the close there, there might be a justification for a Category:Dravidian-language films, but there is consensus against using "South Indian" as the descriptor. It is best to avoid accusing other editors of "Eurocentrism" or any other type of systemic bias. June 19
Category:Spencer Airways delete June 22
Stores keep June 28
Category:Straight edge individuals delete June 10
Category:Super Mario Bros. administrative close: no such category exists June 27
Category:Supraorganizations in Science rename June 15
Category:Syed Noor Zaman Naqshbandi Shazli delete (category was still empty at the time of close) June 23
Category:Television supervillains Keep June 26
Category:Terrorist attacks on places of worship merge June 11
Category:The Killing (U.S. TV series) keep June 11
Category:Trucks of India keep, with leave for proposing renaming immediately June 25
Category:User information templates Delete June 10
Category:User miq keep. I note that Template:User miq-1 was changed on 11 June so that its members no longer also populate this top category. That follows e.g. Template:User fr-1 but not some others e.g. Template:User ga-1 which currently also populates its top category. – June 10
Category:Vegans delete June 10
Category:Video games based on retired National Hockey League players merge to Category:National Hockey League video games June 4
Category:Waitresses delete, upmerging only the articles on occupations and Heather Crowe to Category:Restaurant staff. – June 3
Category:Waxwings merge and redirect. – June 10
Category:Weapons of the Falklands war delete June 25
Category:Widowhood in television Delete June 13
Category:Wikipedia categories named after North American Class I railroads Keep. Nomination widthdrawn June 1
Category:Wikipedia spacecraft articles missing information rename to Category:Wikipedia spacecraft media missing information. As for the template, anyone rename it simply by moving it. – June 18
WikiProject Skepticism completed June 22
Category:William Hung albums withdrawn June 27
WIPO treaties Merge June 14
Category:Works originally published in Tatler rename to Category:Works originally published in Tatler (1709 journal), following move of Tatler (1709 journal). – June 5
Category:XXL freshmen delete June 22
Category:Zimbabwean fraudsters delete. June 6