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Category:Angolan lawyers by type[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: Merge Timrollpickering (talk) 11:11, 23 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: We only have a total of 5 articles about Angolan lawyers. Only content of this category is Category:Angolan prosecutors. We dont need an intermediate category. Rathfelder (talk) 22:47, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, redundant category layer. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:49, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - subcat schemes for 5 articles are in general premature. Oculi (talk) 12:05, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:1985 establishments in the Vatican City[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: Rename to Category:1985 establishments in Vatican City Timrollpickering (talk) 11:12, 23 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Overcategorisation per WP:SMALL and WP:NARROWCAT Morbidthoughts (talk) 18:51, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep This is a dinstict place. We allow categorizing anything by the year and distinct place it was organized.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:52, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
WP:OTHERSTUFF: How many other Vatican City establishments are there to even organise this by year?[1] Morbidthoughts (talk) 19:09, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Illegal speech[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 14:10, 23 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I just discovered this category after creating Category:Speech crimes, which I think is a better definition for the concept. (Disclaimer: I recently moved the head article from "criminal speech" to "speech crimes" due to the latter name being a clear common name.) Judging from my searches, "illegal speech" is a US-centric term referring to speech which is not protected by the first amendment, while "speech crimes" is more used internationally. If this merge is not done, the categories should be merged in the opposite direction. buidhe 18:31, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge the two categories as they have the same scope. I do not have a preference regarding the title of the category or of the article. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:58, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge or Reverse Merge Ideally, this would have been an RM at the main article but I've also inadvertently created duplicate categories. RevelationDirect (talk) 14:31, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge same scope, although many other items ought to be categorized therein. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:09, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Batwoman (TV series)[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete. bibliomaniac15 03:43, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Too little content. What is even the point of this category? It in no way aids in navigation. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 11:52, 4 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. 2 files, an article and a sub-category. I find that more than enough to aid in navigation. --Gonnym (talk) 11:57, 4 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Categories like this should have more than the one article about itself. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 19:26, 4 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per creator. Certainly helps navigation, even if the nominator does not believe it does for them personally, and given that the season has been renewed and the first season is almost over, the page is likely to be split soon into Season 1 and 2 articles, which will have their own files, needing it further. -- /Alex/21 01:45, 5 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, the category only contains the eponymous article. In that, I do not count files or redirects to that same article since they do not provide new information about the topic. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:21, 5 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, bibliomaniac15 18:05, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete for Now I guess I don't understand why this would plausibly be kept since it ties one main article with redirects and doesn't aid navigation. No objection to recreating if we ever get up to 5 direct articles. RevelationDirect (talk) 23:58, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete There is virtually no actual content. See WP:EPONCAT for the standards needed for eponymous categories. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 07:54, 21 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Not sure how the comments above dismiss files and redirect categories as not existent for navigation. How else would somebody move from Batwoman (TV series) character redirects to lists to File:Batwoman TV series logo.png? Manually type in something and hope for the best? --Gonnym (talk) 08:48, 21 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Reply Simple: A reader would use the redirect to get to the sole Batwoman (TV series) article and then see the logo in the infobox without ever going to the actual image file. RevelationDirect (talk) 22:20, 23 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Country data templates of other entities[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 May 29#Category:Country data templates of other entities

Category:Municipal City Heads (gorodskoy golova) of Moscow[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 May 29#Category:Municipal City Heads (gorodskoy golova) of Moscow

Category:Lumbini Zone geography stubs[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: Delete Timrollpickering (talk) 11:15, 23 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Zones have been superseded by provinces; category is empty. Her Pegship (I'm listening) 16:51, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Magazines by country[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: Rename Timrollpickering (talk) 11:03, 23 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion/Log/2006_August_6#Newspapers_by_country renamed Category:Austrian newspapers to Category:Newspapers published in Austria (see its exemplary rationale). Moreover these are all subcats of eg Category:Mass media in Austria, which was likewise renamed to use 'in' via this cfd: Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2016_February_10#Media_by_country. Oculi (talk) 15:10, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Full list of 108 'magazine' categories
  1. Category:Austrian magazines to Category:Magazines published in Austria
  2. Category:Azerbaijani magazines to Category:Magazines published in Azerbaijan
  3. Category:Bahraini magazines to Category:Magazines published in Bahrain
  4. Category:Bangladeshi magazines to Category:Magazines published in Bangladesh
  5. Category:Belarusian magazines to Category:Magazines published in Belarus
  6. Category:Belgian magazines to Category:Magazines published in Belgium
  7. Category:Bosnia and Herzegovina magazines to Category:Magazines published in Bosnia and Herzegovina
  8. Category:Brazilian magazines to Category:Magazines published in Brazil
  9. Category:Bulgarian magazines to Category:Magazines published in Bulgaria
  10. Category:Cambodian magazines to Category:Magazines published in Cambodia
  11. Category:Canadian magazines to Category:Magazines published in Canada
  12. Category:Catalan magazines to Category:Magazines published in Catalonia
  13. Category:Chilean magazines to Category:Magazines published in Chile
  14. Category:Chinese magazines to Category:Magazines published in China
  15. Category:Colombian magazines to Category:Magazines published in Colombia
  16. Category:Costa Rican magazines to Category:Magazines published in Costa Rica
  17. Category:Croatian magazines to Category:Magazines published in Croatia
  18. Category:Cuban magazines to Category:Magazines published in Cuba
  19. Category:Cypriot magazines to Category:Magazines published in Cyprus
  20. Category:Czechoslovak magazines to Category:Magazines published in Czechoslovakia
  21. Category:Danish magazines to Category:Magazines published in Denmark
  22. Category:Egyptian magazines to Category:Magazines published in Egypt
  23. Category:English magazines to Category:Magazines published in England
  24. Category:Estonian magazines to Category:Magazines published in Estonia
  25. Category:Ethiopian magazines to Category:Magazines published in Ethiopia
  26. Category:Fars magazines to Category:Magazines published in Fars Province
  27. Category:Finnish magazines to Category:Magazines published in Finland
  28. Category:Flemish magazines to Category:Magazines published in Flanders
  29. Category:French magazines to Category:Magazines published in France
  30. Category:German magazines to Category:Magazines published in Germany
  31. Category:Greek magazines to Category:Magazines published in Greece
  32. Category:Hong Kong magazines to Category:Magazines published in Hong Kong
  33. Category:Hungarian magazines to Category:Magazines published in Hungary
  34. Category:Icelandic magazines to Category:Magazines published in Iceland
  35. Category:Imperial Russian magazines to Category:Magazines published in the Russian Empire
  36. Category:Indian magazines to Category:Magazines published in India
  37. Category:Indonesian magazines to Category:Magazines published in Indonesia
  38. Category:Iranian magazines to Category:Magazines published in Iran
  39. Category:Iraqi magazines to Category:Magazines published in Iraq
  40. Category:Irish magazines to Category:Magazines published in Ireland
  41. Category:Israeli magazines to Category:Magazines published in Israel
  42. Category:Italian magazines to Category:Magazines published in Italy
  43. Category:Jamaican magazines to Category:Magazines published in Jamaica
  44. Category:Japanese magazines to Category:Magazines published in Japan
  45. Category:Jordanian magazines to Category:Magazines published in Jordan
  46. Category:Kenyan magazines to Category:Magazines published in Kenya
  47. Category:Korean magazines to Category:Magazines published in Korea
  48. Category:Kosovar magazines to Category:Magazines published in Kosovo
  49. Category:Kuwaiti magazines to Category:Magazines published in Kuwait
  50. Category:Latvian magazines to Category:Magazines published in Latvia
  51. Category:Lebanese magazines to Category:Magazines published in Lebanon
  52. Category:Lithuanian magazines to Category:Magazines published in Lithuania
  53. Category:Malaysian magazines to Category:Magazines published in Malaysia
  54. Category:Maltese magazines to Category:Magazines published in Malta
  55. Category:Mauritian magazines to Category:Magazines published in Mauritius
  56. Category:Mexican magazines to Category:Magazines published in Mexico
  57. Category:Moldovan magazines to Category:Magazines published in Moldova
  58. Category:Montenegrin magazines to Category:Magazines published in Montenegro
  59. Category:Moroccan magazines to Category:Magazines published in Morocco
  60. Category:Mozambican magazines to Category:Magazines published in Mozambique
  61. Category:Namibian magazines to Category:Magazines published in Namibia
  62. Category:Nepalese magazines to Category:Magazines published in Nepal
  63. Category:New Zealand magazines to Category:Magazines published in New Zealand
  64. Category:Nicaraguan magazines to Category:Magazines published in Nicaragua
  65. Category:Nigerian magazines to Category:Magazines published in Nigeria
  66. Category:North Korean magazines to Category:Magazines published in North Korea
  67. Category:Macedonian magazines to Category:Magazines published in North Macedonia
  68. Category:Norwegian magazines to Category:Magazines published in Norway
  69. Category:Pakistani magazines to Category:Magazines published in Pakistan
  70. Category:Peruvian magazines to Category:Magazines published in Peru
  71. Category:Polish magazines to Category:Magazines published in Poland
  72. Category:Portuguese magazines to Category:Magazines published in Portugal
  73. Category:Puerto Rican magazines to Category:Magazines published in Puerto Rico
  74. Category:Romanian magazines to Category:Magazines published in Romania
  75. Category:Russian magazines to Category:Magazines published in Russia
  76. Category:Rwandan magazines to Category:Magazines published in Rwanda
  77. Category:Saudi Arabian magazines to Category:Magazines published in Saudi Arabia
  78. Category:Scottish magazines to Category:Magazines published in Scotland
  79. Category:Senegalese magazines to Category:Magazines published in Senegal
  80. Category:Serbian magazines to Category:Magazines published in Serbia
  81. Category:Singaporean magazines to Category:Magazines published in Singapore
  82. Category:Slovak magazines to Category:Magazines published in Slovakia
  83. Category:Slovenian magazines to Category:Magazines published in Slovenia
  84. Category:South African magazines to Category:Magazines published in South Africa
  85. Category:South Korean magazines to Category:Magazines published in South Korea
  86. Category:Spanish magazines to Category:Magazines published in Spain
  87. Category:Sri Lankan magazines to Category:Magazines published in Sri Lanka
  88. Category:Swedish magazines to Category:Magazines published in Sweden
  89. Category:Swiss magazines to Category:Magazines published in Switzerland
  90. Category:Syrian magazines to Category:Magazines published in Syria
  91. Category:Taiwanese magazines to Category:Magazines published in Taiwan
  92. Category:Thai magazines to Category:Magazines published in Thailand
  93. Category:Czech magazines to Category:Magazines published in the Czech Republic
  94. Category:Dutch magazines to Category:Magazines published in the Netherlands
  95. Category:Philippine magazines to Category:Magazines published in the Philippines
  96. Category:Soviet magazines to Category:Magazines published in the Soviet Union
  97. Category:Emirati magazines to Category:Magazines published in the United Arab Emirates
  98. Category:British magazines to Category:Magazines published in the United Kingdom
  99. Category:Tunisian magazines to Category:Magazines published in Tunisia
  100. Category:Turkish magazines to Category:Magazines published in Turkey
  101. Category:Ukrainian magazines to Category:Magazines published in Ukraine
  102. Category:Uzbekistani magazines to Category:Magazines published in Uzbekistan
  103. Category:Venezuelan magazines to Category:Magazines published in Venezuela
  104. Category:Vietnamese magazines to Category:Magazines published in Vietnam
  105. Category:Welsh magazines to Category:Magazines published in Wales
  106. Category:Yugoslav magazines to Category:Magazines published in Yugoslavia
  107. Category:Zambian magazines to Category:Magazines published in Zambia
  108. Category:Zimbabwean magazines to Category:Magazines published in Zimbabwe
Discussion for magazines[edit]
  • Support as nom. Oculi (talk) 15:10, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support to reduce ambiguity. E.g. German magazines may be wrongly interpreted as German-language magazines. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:38, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom. Rathfelder (talk) 20:44, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename all per nom, for clarity. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:49, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom. Clearer scope. Dimadick (talk) 14:45, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. I've often thought it was weird for newspaper categories to be formatted as "Newspapers published in [Country]" while magazines were at "[Demonym] magazines" — but the idea of actually taking on the job of batching a full nomination for discussion here just gave me hives. So I'm thankful that somebody finally has, because this has been necessary for a while. Bearcat (talk) 17:00, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Buildings and structures in Massachusetts by community[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge for now bibliomaniac15 02:53, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Confusing split of main category. User:Namiba 14:46, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom. Perhaps some day the whole tree may be renamed to "by populated place" instead of "by city". Marcocapelle (talk) 15:45, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Prefer "by populated place" as this avoid the tricky question of what places are cities. There was a long discussion over this several years ago. Peterkingiron (talk) 15:55, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support I'm open to a broader conversation about what we call groups of people living together, but creating a duplicate category tree doesn't aid navigation. RevelationDirect (talk) 22:21, 23 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support let's merge the cats for now and have a subsequent discussion about city → something else (populated place is clunky, maybe settlement?), which I would also support. SportingFlyer T·C 08:02, 24 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Houses in Lynnfield, Massachusetts[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 June 2#Category:Houses in Lynnfield, Massachusetts

Category:Plovers[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 June 2#Category:Plovers

Category:Spanish-language YouTubers[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 June 3#Category:Spanish-language YouTubers

Category:Transformers: Chojin Masterforce character redirects to lists[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 June 2#Category:Transformers: Chojin Masterforce character redirects to lists

Category:European Initiative Prize recipients[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: Delete Timrollpickering (talk) 11:16, 23 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING (WP:OCAWARD)
The European Union mission/office in Paris has an annual symposium where they also give out the European Initiative Prize for journalism covering European topics. This Wikipedia category is a blend of articles on publications and on journalists but, either way, the award seems non-defining: of the 14 entries in the category 1 mentions it in passing, 1 in the lede, and 12 not at all. It's hardly surprising that respected European based publications and journalists would be covering European topics. The contents are already listified here in the main article for any reader interested in the topic. - RevelationDirect (talk) 02:42, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
*RFC There is an open request for comments on proposed changes to WP:OCAWARD. Your input (pro/con/other) is always welcome here. -RD
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Category:Recipients of the Cuban Friendship Medal[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete. bibliomaniac15 02:55, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEF (WP:OCAWARD)
The Friendship Medal (Cuba) is given to non-Cubans for solidarity with the Cuban revolution. The vast majority of people who won the award have no Wikipedia page but we have three that do: American actor/activist Danny Glover, South African anti-Apartheid priest Michael Lapsley and Zambian Prime Minister Elijah Mudenda. All three articles do mention the award in the body but neither it nor their relations with Cuba more generally seem defining. The contents plus all the redlinks are already listified here in the main article for any reader interested in the topic. (Alternatively, if kept, rename to Category:Recipients of the Friendship Medal (Cuba) to match the main article.) - RevelationDirect (talk) 02:42, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
*RFC There is an open request for comments on proposed changes to WP:OCAWARD. Your input (pro/con/other) is always welcome here. -RD
  • Delete per nom. A list has already been created as a section in the award article. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:19, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose for now. I agree with the basic principle of RevelationDirect's assertion that receipt of the medal is non-defining ... but the problem with deleting the category is that it leaves those articles with no category to group the shared defining characteristic that these people are noted for the association with Cuba.
If we had some other category to group pro-Cuba activists, then this category would be redundant ... but until then it serves as a proxy for the category which we should have. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:47, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@BrownHairedGirl: Is addressing your concern as simple as renaming the category to Category:Pro-Cuban activists? RevelationDirect (talk) 23:55, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@RevelationDirect, I think that a Category:Pro-Cuban activists would be a fine substitute. But it wouldn't be a renaming, because it would have completely different parents. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:18, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • I was going to say "Just delete" as it does not need to be listified, but the suggested repurposing is also acceptable. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:07, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. Whether a category should be created for pro-Cuba activists is a separate issue (and, by the way, that still wouldn't be a defining characteristic of Glover who is in plenty of categories for more defining characteristics). DexDor (talk) 19:21, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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